Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Kristina Anderson
> > at this point I think you can do 98% of what ever content management u need > to do in wordpress. it's really that well designed. > > with all those free weekends u would be rewarded with, hack objective- C (i'm > pretty much blown away with it), code iphone apps and move to maui or > some

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Edward Potter
at this point I think you can do 98% of what ever content management u need to do in wordpress. it's really that well designed. with all those free weekends u would be rewarded with, hack objective-C (i'm pretty much blown away with it), code iphone apps and move to maui or something like that.

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > >> Here's my take, would love your feedback: >> >> http://www.mitchitized.com/nerdy-stuff/php-frameworks-explained/ > > A couple of points: > > You say a framework is opinionated (fair comment) but th

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Peter Becker
Great way to capture it and reflects how I was beginning to think about it - thanks. - peter Mitch Pirtle wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Becker wrote: And one last question to Kristina, why CakePHP and not Zend? Is it that y

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Yogesh Agashe
Ya, I got what you are saying. I think I was doing too much of it. Also I did not think about the visitors from different continent than North America. Thanks, Yogesh Hans Zaunere wrote: Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I will also add minimum 2 char

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread David Mintz
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Hans Zaunere wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I > > will also add minimum 2 characters to the list. > > That might not be correct, especially for Asian lastnames/etc... oh, > minimum > of 2, but you get my meaning... wha

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread David Mintz
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:26 PM, John Campbell wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Yogesh Agashe > wrote: > > Hi Konstantin, > > > > Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I will > > also add minimum 2 characters to the list. > > May I ask, what is the point of a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Here's my take, would love your feedback: > > http://www.mitchitized.com/nerdy-stuff/php-frameworks-explained/ A couple of points: You say a framework is opinionated (fair comment) but that to me implies a stack has specific layers, a naming and direct

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread David Mintz
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Yogesh Agashe wrote: > [...] > Konstantin K wrote: > > oh and also allow for . (periods) > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Konstantin K wrote: > >> be careful. don't just check if the field is NON empty. that's not good >> enough. >> >> in English, you ca

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Hans Zaunere
> Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I > will also add minimum 2 characters to the list. That might not be correct, especially for Asian lastnames/etc... oh, minimum of 2, but you get my meaning... what if you will want to support a middle initial? :) End of

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread John Campbell
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Yogesh Agashe wrote: > Hi Konstantin, > > Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I will > also add minimum 2 characters to the list. May I ask, what is the point of all of this? Who benefits from you imposing all sorts of piddly rules a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Yogesh Agashe
Hi Konstantin, Thanks for the feedback. Right, So many cases to handle in there. I will also add minimum 2 characters to the list. Thanks, Yogesh Konstantin K wrote: oh and also allow for . (periods) On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Konstantin K wrote: b

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Yogesh Agashe
Hello David, Thanks for the welcome. Yes, I am checking that they are not empty. Thanks for the feedback. Sincerely, Yogesh David Krings wrote: Yogesh Agashe wrote: Hello, This is my first post to this NYPHP mailing list. So hello to everyone and thanks for the thorough discussions which h

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Konstantin K
oh and also allow for . (periods) On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Konstantin K wrote: > be careful. don't just check if the field is NON empty. that's not good > enough. > > in English, you can reasonably assume the following to be true about names: > - must contain at least 1 letter [A-Za

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Yogesh Agashe
Hello Hans, Thanks for the welcome. :) Okay, I use PCRE type functions for regular expressions so I think I can continue using them without worrying about the speed. Yes, I never thought if i had to support a different character sets. Thanks for pointing out the possibilities. Sincerely,

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Konstantin K
be careful. don't just check if the field is NON empty. that's not good enough. in English, you can reasonably assume the following to be true about names: - must contain at least 1 letter [A-Za-z] - may contain ' (apostrephe) and - (dash) and (space) - shouldn't be longer than 40 characters. -

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread David Krings
Yogesh Agashe wrote: Hello, This is my first post to this NYPHP mailing list. So hello to everyone and thanks for the thorough discussions which help a beginner developer like me. Welcome, was the same with me, except that I never really left beginner stage. > Is there any other way to va

Re: [nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Hans Zaunere
Hi, > This is my first post to this NYPHP mailing list. So hello to everyone > and thanks for the thorough discussions which help a beginner developer > like me. Hi Yogesh and welcome. > I have a simple question. I want to validate first and last name. I > assume that these are probably most com

[nyphp-talk] Seeking multilingual people who can read languages that use non-English letters for a PHP internationalization project

2009-10-26 Thread PHProx
Hello, Can you read a language that does not use Latin-alphabet English letters (eg. Russian, Greek, Indian alphabets like Devanagari, etc.) and would like to contribute half-an-hour of your time to an open-source PHP internationalization project? Email me and please specify the language(s) an

[nyphp-talk] Valudating common field types

2009-10-26 Thread Yogesh Agashe
Hello, This is my first post to this NYPHP mailing list. So hello to everyone and thanks for the thorough discussions which help a beginner developer like me. I have a simple question. I want to validate first and last name. I assume that these are probably most common fields in any type of

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Becker wrote: > >> And one last question to Kristina, why CakePHP and not Zend?  Is it that >> your team already knows Cake or is their some technical preference? > > For me, Zend is less framework and more like a l

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Kristina Anderson
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Becker wrote: > > > And one last question to Kristina, why CakePHP and not Zend? Is it that > > your team already knows Cake or is their some technical preference? > > For me, Zend is less framework and more like a library, so its at a lower > level than many f

Re: [nyphp-talk] Off the shelp CMS w/o the layout?

2009-10-26 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Becker wrote: > And one last question to Kristina, why CakePHP and not Zend? Is it that > your team already knows Cake or is their some technical preference? For me, Zend is less framework and more like a library, so its at a lower level than many frameworks. -- A