On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Justin Dearing
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>> Now,with all that being said, If I were pre-dispositioned towards
>> referential integrity and schema being handled in the app level (which I am
>> not, big surprise), I'd use m
Hi Gary:
MDB2 Schema is interesting stuff. I haven't used it myself.
http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2_Schema/
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Justin Dearing wrote:
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> Now,with all that being said, If I were pre-dispositioned towards
> referential integrity and schema being handled in the app level (which I am
> not, big surprise), I'd use mongo for new developement.
>
Wow...longest thread on NYPHP to
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
> If you avoid functions that are not cross platform
> The benefit of XML or YAML would be that you can include those platform
> specific features, and if your DB doesn't support it, it just ignores it and
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> Keep in mind, most of that list is not available or not generally used in
> MySQL 4.x
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> Unfortunately, since most of the world is still MySQL 4, open source
> projects have to code for that - so I tend to avoid special functions.
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> Can y
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Dearing wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
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>> Sure there is, it's called SQL. If you avoid functions that are not cross
>> platform, it's fairly easy to take SQL database creation scripts in one
>> platform and import the
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Justin Dearing wrote:
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>> Just a few notes. Ken has stopped maintaining and using Andromeda.
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> Hmm, any idea why? I could never get into it because I work for clients in
> shared hosting aka
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
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>> There is no standard for defining how to describe databases. YAML is
>> simply a convenient format for use in config files for any
>> language/framework).
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>> Sure there is,
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
> > Oh well, score 0 for cross platform/language coolness.
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> There is no standard for defining how to describe databases. YAML is
> simply a convenient format for use in config files for any
> language
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
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> > So now I'm wondering is YAML used in such a manner and is there a
> standard
> > definition for how to use YAML, or is both Doctrine and Andromeda simply
> > rolling their own systems?
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> YAML has
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
> There are some similar things for Ruby, such as
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/db-discovery/ but the more digging I do, the
> only "standardized" items I find are config files[database name, server,
> username, password] not DDL
Yes, YAML is used in Rails
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Gary Mort wrote:
> So now I'm wondering is YAML used in such a manner and is there a standard
> definition for how to use YAML, or is both Doctrine and Andromeda simply
> rolling their own systems?
YAML has standard ways to describe key-value pairs, lists, etc, but each
appl
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Justin Dearing wrote:
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> Just a few notes. Ken has stopped maintaining and using Andromeda.
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Hmm, any idea why? I could never get into it because I work for clients in
shared hosting aka mysql environments but he was really gung ho for a while.
> Donald
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> But the idea that if he stores definitions in YAML programmers can use them
> interested him enough to learn something newso now I want to find what
> the standards for defining database structure in YAML is...or if there are
> none, then
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
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> > So now I'm wondering is YAML used in such a manner and is there a
> standard
> > definition for how to use YAML, or is both Doctrine and Andromeda simply
> > rolling their own systems?
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Gary Mort wrote:
> So now I'm wondering is YAML used in such a manner and is there a standard
> definition for how to use YAML, or is both Doctrine and Andromeda simply
> rolling their own systems? I don't want to point him to the main YAML site,
> because frankl
Both Doctrine and Andromeda use YAML files to describe the database[tables,
columns, etc].
I had assumed[bad idea] that meant that YAML was widely used in that regard
and there was a standardized YAML definition for database definitions.
Now I'm in a bindsince I was talking to my father about
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