Re: [nyphp-talk] Web 2.0 "how to talk like you know something" presentation

2010-02-26 Thread David Roth
As silly as the buzzwords are and we can laugh about them, it's a short-cut to people doing evaluations for a field they know very little about. We all do this. I know nothing about blenders, so I look in Consumer Reports and gather buzzwords on what to look for. I don't have the time or de

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web 2.0 "how to talk like you know something" presentation

2010-02-26 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > True story:  I have a colleague who bid on a project and was expected to be > the winning bid.  However, another bidder used the phrase "Web 2.0" in their > proposal and for that reason alone the project was awarded to the other > bidde

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread David Krings
On 2/26/2010 5:44 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Konstantin K wrote: +1 on UltraEdit (which does code folding correctly!) I think the folding problem is probably in the PHP plugin for Eclipse rather than Eclipse itself. I think the point is that Eclipse was designed for Java a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Gary Mort
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Konstantin K wrote: > > > +1 on UltraEdit (which does code folding correctly!) > > I think the folding problem is probably in the PHP plugin for Eclipse > rather than Eclipse itself. > > > > True, and it should also be re

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Gary Mort
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Konstantin K wrote: > +1 on UltraEdit (which does code folding correctly!) > > They also have UEStudio > Ultraedit is a fantastic editor, but I really want a full fledged IDE. UEStudio is my first choice when they finally go cross platform. :-) > _

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Konstantin K wrote: > +1 on UltraEdit (which does code folding correctly!) I think the folding problem is probably in the PHP plugin for Eclipse rather than Eclipse itself. -- Aj. ___ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Ma

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Konstantin K
+1 on UltraEdit (which does code folding correctly!) They also have UEStudio On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve Manes wrote: > Gary Mort wrote: >> >> I am however fixated on must run on Mac and Windows and preferably Linux. > > Me as well.  I'm a fan of UltraEdit, which released a Linux ver

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web 2.0 "how to talk like you know something" presentation

2010-02-26 Thread Donna Marie Vincent
True story: I have a colleague who bid on a project and was expected to be the winning bid. However, another bidder used the phrase "Web 2.0" in their proposal and for that reason alone the project was awarded to the other bidder! - Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:57:16 -0500 Fro

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, newbie impressions

2010-02-26 Thread Brian O'Connor
Ah, I installed it as the eclipse plugin and I saw the option to install their php plugins, so I figured I'd chime in. On 2/26/10, Gary Mort wrote: > Aptana was what convinced me to try Eclipse again. > > I gave it a shot and it installed and looked layed out the way I think. > However, doing

Re: [nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Steve Manes
Gary Mort wrote: I am however fixated on must run on Mac and Windows and preferably Linux. Me as well. I'm a fan of UltraEdit, which released a Linux version in December. The native Mac Ultraedit is due out RSN. ___ New York PHP Users Group Commun

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, newbie impressions

2010-02-26 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > Aptana was what convinced me to try Eclipse again. > I gave it a shot and it installed and looked layed out the way I think. >  However, doing Aptana as a stand alone I had all kinds of problems with > trying to get eclipse plugins to install PL

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, newbie impressions

2010-02-26 Thread Gary Mort
Aptana was what convinced me to try Eclipse again. I gave it a shot and it installed and looked layed out the way I think. However, doing Aptana as a stand alone I had all kinds of problems with trying to get eclipse plugins to install PLUS they have discontinued their PHP plugin and plan on dona

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, newbie impressions

2010-02-26 Thread Brian O'Connor
Have you tried aptana? It was built for ror, but they took over pydev and have a php plugin as well. I just started using it and its pretty decent (not sure about the code folding). On 2/26/10, Gary Mort wrote: > Too many little consoles.. :-) > > Which is the main item which has put me off. >

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, try try again

2010-02-26 Thread Adrian Noland
Hrmm, interesting. I've been using PDT for a while and never missed it. I seem to remember phpeclipse doing that. Give that a shot? Adrian On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > Well, despite not liking it...I'm giving eclipse yet another try as every > other system I've tried ha

[nyphp-talk] Free vs Pay

2010-02-26 Thread Gary Mort
BTW, I have no objection to paying for a decent IDE. I felt the $300 I paid for Komodo IDE years ago was money well spent. So I'm not fixated on "free". I am however fixated on must run on Mac and Windows and preferably Linux. I go from my macbook at work to windows at home. And sometimes fire

[nyphp-talk] Eclipse, newbie impressions

2010-02-26 Thread Gary Mort
Too many little consoles.. :-) Which is the main item which has put me off. Written in Java and needing to know Java to do a lot of extending of Eclipse[though with PDT going to a markup language for rules, I might be able to do quite a bit there] Oddities with network connections: I went thro

Re: [nyphp-talk] Eclipse, try try again

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