Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread David Roth
Lots of entertaining replies. :-) A security attacker could simply replace the program with something else entirely. But I'm getting ahead of myself. If the main concern is that someone could break into the hosting site and change the PHP code to do something evil, than you could set-up a w

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Lester Leong
Hey all, The use case here is something similar to what Chris mentioned above, in that my organization develops and maintains a piece of software and we host this software on the client's premises, not ours. The obfuscation is just meant to be another hurdle to complicate life for the would-be att

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Snyder
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Patrick Saint - laurent wrote: > You are wasting your time don't waste your money as well.  Anyone with an > intermediate knowledge of php internals will be able to > decompile/unobfuscate/decrypt any of these products.  If the Zend engine can > read it and convert

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Damion Hankejh
Yeah that's the rub -- everything has a hole in it. Still, obfuscation can thwart the efforts of many otherwise PITA obnoxious students and losers living in basements. I see thousands of attempts every week from China alone, and have resorted to IP blocking and ridiculously long passwords, among

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Patrick Saint - laurent
You are wasting your time don't waste your money as well. Anyone with an intermediate knowledge of php internals will be able to decompile/unobfuscate/decrypt any of these products. If the Zend engine can read it and convert it to bytecode it can be unobfuscated. Patrick Saint - laurent On Wed

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Edward Potter
I guess the reality is if someone REALLY, REALLY, REALLY wants your code, there is no way to hide it. I mean a guy recently used an electron microscope to break obfuscation on an uncrackable chip. People have already cracked iPhone/4.0 from Apple. And Apple has a room of Stanford Phd's working on

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread jeanbaptiste.verrey
Hi, Just in case: Zend Guard is $600/year and not a month ! http://shop.zend.com/eu/zend-guard.html "Zend Guard is an annual subscription that includes 1 year of support and upgrades." Jean-Baptiste Verrey De : talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org] De la part

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Cheung
Hello Lester, What an excellent question. However, without going in personal likes or dislikes on the merits or demerits of obfuscators a good starting point for many things including obfuscators is http://sourceforge.net/ at least it will point you in the right directio

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Damion Hankejh
Off-shore outsource it for the lowest rate you can find. --- Damion Hankejh | hankejh.com On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Lester Leong wrote: > Hey all, > > What's the best PHP obfuscator out there? I've heard Zend Guard mentioned a > few times, but it's a bit too pricey at $600/month. I'm n

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread Tim Sailer
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:44 PM, tedd wrote: > At 3:33 PM -0400 4/13/10, Lester Leong wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> What's the best PHP obfuscator out there? I've heard Zend Guard mentioned >> a few times, but it's a bit too pricey at $600/month. I'm not against >> paying, but if anyone has any expe

Re: [nyphp-talk] What's the best PHP obfuscator?

2010-04-14 Thread David Krings
On 4/13/2010 15:33, Lester Leong wrote: Hey all, What's the best PHP obfuscator out there? I've heard Zend Guard mentioned a few times, but it's a bit too pricey at $600/month. I'm not against paying, but if anyone has any experiences or recommendations I'm open to them. Lester Leong Why obf