Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Marc Vose
Hi there: I'm strongly considering migrating some future projects to MODX Revolution. It sort of sits in that space between a low-level framework, and something 'polished' and not-as-easily-extensible like ExpressionEngine. It tries to do core functionality + content management, but not output,

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Michael B Allen
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Jesse Sanford wrote: > Zend had so much steam early on and then where did it go? I feel like > they have been sleeping. Quite the opposite. Zend Framework started accepting contributions from anyone and everyone and now, even though they have done a good job of mi

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Federico Ulfo
DB, I/O and streaming are the bottle neck, that's why that benchmark is not very useful, the reason why I posted it is because there are mentioned a few framework, which are the same we're mentioning in this emails, and if you search on Google you'll find many more article that will tell you to use

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Ajai Khattri
On 9/14/11 4:53 PM, federico ulfo wrote: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/7-PHP-Frameworks-Tested-For-Speed/2/ I think some of these comparisons are kind of useless. Lightweight frameworks are light because they might have fewer features, less flexibility, etc etc. In some cases, you may end u

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread federico ulfo
http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/7-PHP-Frameworks-Tested-For-Speed/2/ a small bench, anyway I agree, a good designed DB is more important, also performance thanks to the edge caching (squid, varnish ...) and browser caching are no more a critical issue If you have to change framework for your new p

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Ajai Khattri
On 9/14/11 4:44 PM, Jesse Sanford wrote: Symfony 1.X is probably still more widely used than Symfony 2.x and both are good. Although 2.x is a far more abstracted and multipurpose framework 1.x is still great for the usual 3 tier webapps. Both are very well documented. Its interesting to read a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Jesse Sanford
+1...for that AJ But if you are going to use someone else's code. make sure. Make for damn sure... it has a wealth of CURRENT documentation and a lively community. My mantra... (a.k.a. rant) I don't use software that tries to solve all problems. The worst software grows out of goal-less developm

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Kristina Anderson wrote: > The framework choice is always less important than having a > well-designed database underlying your code. One could argue, that there's no replacement for sound engineering and that the greatest framework is your own brain. Its important not to

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Matthew Kaufman
yes On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Darryle Steplight wrote: > "The framework choice is always less important than having a > well-designed database underlying your code." <- #sotrue > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Kristina Anderson > wrote: > > A lean & mean AJAX-specific framework is S

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Darryle Steplight
"The framework choice is always less important than having a well-designed database underlying your code." <- #sotrue On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Kristina Anderson wrote: > A lean & mean AJAX-specific framework is SlimPHP.  I've used it and can say > that I was happy with it. > > The "big

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Kristina Anderson
A lean & mean AJAX-specific framework is SlimPHP. I've used it and can say that I was happy with it. The "big 5" are clearly: CakePHP, CodeIgniter, Drupal, Zend & Symfony. Maybe some agencies in NYC are using Yii but in all my years I've never run into one. I think that it's a good idea t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread federico ulfo
What's the best framework is one of the hot discussion on linked in. Ruby has Rails, PHP has many, Symfony2 it's a good one, mostly used in Europe, the community is nice, but the founder Fabien Potencier is not very friendly, before come to NYC, at the Italian PHP Day I asked him if they was hiring

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Rob Marscher
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Bruce Martin wrote: >> This may be controversial but I would like to know what the conceived top 5 >> PHP frameworks are. You don't have to list why, just an order from most >> popular, i.e. there is more demand for developers with experience using the >> framework

Re: [nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread David Wang
every framework will have "flaws" that are unique to what you're trying to do. you should try to find one that is small and extensible enough that you can customize. here are some of the ones ive seen (in no particular order): zend symfony code igniter (php < 4), kohana (php 5+) yii -d On Sep

[nyphp-talk] Most common Framework

2011-09-14 Thread Bruce Martin
This may be controversial but I would like to know what the conceived top 5 PHP frameworks are. You don't have to list why, just an order from most popular, i.e. there is more demand for developers with experience using the framework. The reason I ask, is I have just spent a year working with Ca