Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 05:29:27PM -0400, Ronald Bradford wrote: > The second is the Linux family tree which is very interesting of the 3 > flavors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distributions and what versions > have spawned from others. I first ran Linux using the SLS distro - installing Li

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ronald Bradford
To answer your question about Unix and Linux there are two good diagrams, first at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_like There is a similar diagram on the Linux page about the *nix family that shows the same thing. The second is the Linux family tree which is very interesting of the 3 flavors htt

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread leam hall
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 03:53:43PM -0400, Rob Marscher wrote: > > > I'm using Ubuntu LTS for a NodeJS project that needed more recent > software. > > Basically, if you wanna play with "new" stuff like Node, MongoDB, > Gearman, etc you can't u

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 03:53:43PM -0400, Rob Marscher wrote: > I'm using Ubuntu LTS for a NodeJS project that needed more recent software. Basically, if you wanna play with "new" stuff like Node, MongoDB, Gearman, etc you can't use CentOS (or you build your own packages and manage all their depe

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Rob Marscher
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Hart wrote: > I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS > distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I have > kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is preferred > on the deskt

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:09:17PM -0400, Nicholas Hart wrote: > I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS > distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I have > kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is preferred > on t

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread leam hall
If I needed a non-Linux OS it would probably be NetBSD. However, I'm partial to RH based systems as that's where I make my living. If things move to Ubuntu or FreeBSD, I'll head that way... Leam On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Hans Z wrote: > > I am having a debate in our office over whether

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Hans Z
> I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS > distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I have > kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is preferred > on the desktop. I even have an Ubuntu desktop PC. Just wondered w

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Federico Ulfo
Hi, since you're more familiar and probably faster with Ubuntu go with it, if a necessity comes up you'll change it later. I personally prefer CentOS. Whatever Distros you chose use Chef, so on your local you'll be able to use Vagrant to create a development environment with the same configuratio

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 06/19/2013 01:03 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Anthony Papillion > wrote: > > On 06/19/2013 12:41 PM, Jesse Callaway wrote: > > totally off topic, but food for thought - This is cool. But what the > > heck do they define Unix

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Prevost
+1 I now only deploy SuSe images that I've crafted myself -> http://susestudio.com/ On 6/19/2013 10:41 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Hart > mailto:nh...@partsauthority.com>> wrote: > > I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with >

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Chris Snyder
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > On 06/19/2013 12:41 PM, Jesse Callaway wrote: > > totally off topic, but food for thought - This is cool. But what the > > heck do they define Unix as? I really doubt many websites use Unix. Is > > Plan9 Unix? is OSX Unix? > > Probably on

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Manes
On 6/19/13 1:15 PM, leam hall wrote: > Easier to find stuff that works on RH/CentOS than Ubuntu. 95% of US > Linux deployments, give or take, are Red Hat. > > Ubuntu has a place, just not in the data center. Yet, anyway. They seem > to be working on that. That's strange because of the three compa

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 06/19/2013 12:41 PM, Jesse Callaway wrote: > totally off topic, but food for thought - This is cool. But what the > heck do they define Unix as? I really doubt many websites use Unix. Is > Plan9 Unix? is OSX Unix? Probably one or more of the BSD's. I know a lot of people who use FreeBSD as thei

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 06/19/2013 12:09 PM, Nicholas Hart wrote: > I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS > distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I > have kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is > preferred on the desktop. I eve

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread leam hall
Hey Greg, work in several datacenters. The only odd one used a lot of SLES vs Red Hat. They used 95% SLES and the rest RH. That's just the Linux portions of datacenters; not including Unix or gameboys. Leam On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) < g...@freephile.com> wrote:

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Chris Snyder
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Hart wrote: > I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS > distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I have > kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is preferred > on the deskt

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Jesse Callaway
totally off topic, but food for thought - This is cool. But what the heck do they define Unix as? I really doubt many websites use Unix. Is Plan9 Unix? is OSX Unix? On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) < g...@freephile.com> wrote: > http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/o

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all Greg Rundlett On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) < g...@freephile.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM, leam hall wrote: > >> 95% of US Linux deployments, give or take, are Red Hat. > > > Source? > > Gr

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Ronald Bradford
I see a lot of Ubuntu Server deployments for LAMP stack (probably more now then RH/CentOS/). As already asked, it's what you plan to run on the server that is more important. How to plan to install it (e.g. via source, or by package management)? RH/CentOS is very behind in many LAMP products and

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM, leam hall wrote: > 95% of US Linux deployments, give or take, are Red Hat. Source? Greg Rundlett ___ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.o

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Darryle Steplight
+1 for Ubuntu with LAMP stacks. I made the switch from Centos to Ubuntu without any regrets on my servers. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ronald Bradford wrote: > I see a lot of Ubuntu Server deployments for LAMP stack (probably more now > then RH/CentOS/). > > As already asked, it's what you

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Justin Dearing
What runs on your servers? Do you find yourself using a lot of third party RPMS or custom compiled tarballs? Is the software you care about more up to date on ubuntu? Ubuntu has an install without X. Its been a while since I ran Xen VMs.. Its pretty much what is easier to manage for you. Generall

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread leam hall
Easier to find stuff that works on RH/CentOS than Ubuntu. 95% of US Linux deployments, give or take, are Red Hat. Ubuntu has a place, just not in the data center. Yet, anyway. They seem to be working on that. Leam On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Hart wrote: > I am having a debate in

[nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-19 Thread Nicholas Hart
I am having a debate in our office over whether to continue with CentOS distro for use with our VM based servers (XEN) or switch to Ubuntu. I have kept the belief that RedHat is better for servers while Ubuntu is preferred on the desktop. I even have an Ubuntu desktop PC. Just wondered what all