Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT!

2013-06-22 Thread Ed Prevost
Hans, I'm starting to feel like some of these posts aren't being made in seriousness... your thoughts. On 6/22/2013 9:26 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:50:56PM -0400, Ken Robinson wrote: > >> How about OOP vs Procedural coding? > This is like the earlier post asking about MV

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Anirudhsinh Zala
In open-source world, there are hardly any compelling reasons to switch from 1 technology to another. :-) General rule of thumb is "Go with what you are best at." Thanks, Anirudhsinh Zala On Jun 22, 2013 9:56 PM, "David Roth" wrote: > I agree with Hans. > > I've never wanted to be one of those

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:50:56PM -0400, Ken Robinson wrote: > How about OOP vs Procedural coding? This is like the earlier post asking about MVC - some of us have moved on and are looking at functional programming. -- Aj. FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri EnoLand: http://flip.it/c1ktG

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:27:15AM -0400, Hans Z wrote: > Hmm, and how is this different from svn? Inherit in source/version control > is the word "control" - why do I need X number of developers sporting their > own pseudo-repository that ends having to get merged back centrally anyway? To be f

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 09:50:27AM -0400, Daniel Convissor wrote: > The ability to commit, branch, stash, et al, locally amazing. Plus the > ability to have local hooks and the things you can do on the server with > hooks is mind blowing. Here are two tools I use with Git: You should give Mercu

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-22 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 09:38:34AM -0400, Hans Z wrote: > Out of curiosity, are there examples? I compile PHP 5.4 regularly against > recent releases of CentOS without issue - xml/gd/etc all work fine. I think the fact that you said "compile" speaks volumes... -- Aj. FaceBook: facebook.com/aja

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thanks!..MVC

2013-06-22 Thread Rob Marscher
On Jun 22, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Nicholas Hart wrote: > My .Net colleague and I were wondering if/when MVC programming is going to > take over the world. Anyone using it yet in PHP and do you see it as the > future path for all programming? I would say MVC already took over the world for web app

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thanks!..MVC

2013-06-22 Thread Justin Dearing
Sorry for the double post, but tangentially related, someone write a View Engine for ASP.NET MVC that uses smarty templates called Sharpy. http://sharpy.codeplex.com/ I never tried it, but if you are heavily invested in Smarty but want to try ASP.NET MVC its somethingg to keep in minds. Justin O

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thanks!..MVC

2013-06-22 Thread Justin Dearing
Well, MVC was described by the Gang of Four in 1994 before the CLR was written, and you could do MVC with Smarty templates since the .NET 1.1 days (to lazy to google exact dates but I was using smarty before .NET 2.0 was released). That being said, I've never used any PHP frameworks besides Smarty

[nyphp-talk] Thanks!..MVC

2013-06-22 Thread Nicholas Hart
I just want to thank everyone who responded to my CentOS v Ubuntu question. In case you're wondering, we did stay with CentOS which I feel is the right choice at this time especially since we are migrating to VMs on Xen server which is enough change already. MVC: My .Net colleague and I were wond

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-22 Thread Chris Snyder
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Daniel Convissor < dani...@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > Hi Folks: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:28:04PM -0400, Ronald Bradford wrote: > > > RH/CentOS is very behind in many LAMP products and the associated > > dependencies via package management, while Ubunt

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Hans C. Kaspersetz
Agile vrs Waterfall project estimation and execution from an agency dev's perspective. Hans Kaspersetz Arteric Sent from my tricorder On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "Mark van der Waarde | Alsjeblaft!" wrote: >> How about OOP vs Procedural coding? > > That would definitely be interesting.

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread David Roth
Yes, it would be! David Roth On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Mark van der Waarde | Alsjeblaft! < ap...@alsjeblaft.nl> wrote: > How about OOP vs Procedural coding? > > > That would definitely be interesting. > > Mark > > ___ New York PHP User Group Co

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Ken Robinson
How about OOP vs Procedural coding? Ken Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Hans Z wrote: > >> I agree with Hans. > > :) > >> I've never wanted to be one of those people who over the years refused to >> adapt to something new. But the reality is that it has to really be an

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Justin Dearing
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Hans Z wrote: > I'll happily seed the list: ) > > Excellent list and I'd like to come to that meeting. I'll add one thing to the git/svn talk. I began working on a legacy code base that was stored in SVN without the trunk/branches/tags setup. I'm a git guy, bu

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Mark van der Waarde | Alsjeblaft!
> > How about OOP vs Procedural coding? That would definitely be interesting. Mark ___ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Hans Z
> I agree with Hans. :) I've never wanted to be one of those people who over the years refused to > adapt to something new. But the reality is that it has to really be an > improvement, not just new to justify the change. > And actually, this brings up a great topic for mailing list discussion,

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread David Roth
I agree with Hans. I've never wanted to be one of those people who over the years refused to adapt to something new. But the reality is that it has to really be an improvement, not just new to justify the change. David Roth On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Hans Z wrote: > Hey Dan, > > On Sat,

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Rainelemental
OT flame? Ok I jump in. +1 for git... I mistakenly did a push -force deleting days of commits... I called a colleague and asked to push back his latest commit, that saved the day. Having multiple copy is like having lot of backups, so awesome. How could you do that in SVN? Git is the FTP kill

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Jesse Callaway
On Jun 22, 2013 10:17 AM, "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Daniel Convissor < dani...@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: >> >> >> Well, then. That's one more vote for Ubuntu/Debian in my book. :) >> >> Git (and distributed version control in general) is _so_ m

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Hans Z
Hey Dan, On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Daniel Convissor < dani...@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > Hi Hans: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:43:52PM -0400, Hans Z wrote: > > > > I'm always in favor of CentOS. Nothing particularly against > Ubuntu/Debian, > > but I just don't have any reason t

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Daniel Convissor < dani...@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > > Well, then. That's one more vote for Ubuntu/Debian in my book. :) > > Git (and distributed version control in general) is _so_ much better > than SVN. Using Git for the past 2.5 years has improved my

Re: [nyphp-talk] GIT! (was: CentOS v Ubuntu)

2013-06-22 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hi Hans: On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 02:43:52PM -0400, Hans Z wrote: > > I'm always in favor of CentOS. Nothing particularly against Ubuntu/Debian, > but I just don't have any reason to switch to the newest trendy thing. > Sort of like moving from svn to git :) Well, then. That's one more vote fo

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-22 Thread Hans Z
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Daniel Convissor < dani...@analysisandsolutions.com> wrote: > Hi Folks: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:28:04PM -0400, Ronald Bradford wrote: > > > RH/CentOS is very behind in many LAMP products and the associated > > dependencies via package management, while

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-06-22 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hi Folks: On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:28:04PM -0400, Ronald Bradford wrote: > RH/CentOS is very behind in many LAMP products and the associated > dependencies via package management, while Ubuntu is much more up to date. I was going to say the same thing. RPM's are YEARS (literally!) behind. --