Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Snyder
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM, P.Y wrote: > > Can you explain what you mean when you say "Debian's ever-more-complicated > filesystem" > > Mainly that some--but not all--shared libraries are being moved from /usr/lib into /usr/lib/, which makes hand-compiling a bit more difficult. Or take a lo

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Jesse Callaway
I am very interested in this kind of thing. So cool! On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03:57AM -0400, Daniel Krook wrote: > > > And I don't mean to start a religious war, but if you were to set up a > > server only cluster of VMs to serve up your

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:25:00AM -0400, Hans Z wrote: > Actually, I take this back - it sucks. I just had the honor of setting up > Ubuntu for a project... I had to Google to find out how to get a command > line prompt in it's UI, and then sort through the Amazon/MP3/etc Why did you install a

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread P.Y
David, Can you explain what you mean when you say "Debian's ever-more-complicated filesystem" Paul Yurt Systems Engineer // Media Technologist // RedNet Product Specialist On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Daniel Krook wrote: > > Chris, Ha

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:30:56AM -0400, Chris Snyder wrote: > The ideal OS would be something like MediaTemple's Grid Service, or > Google's App Engine, where someone else is managing the infrastructure and > underlying OS, and you get an isolated container with guaranteed resource > allocation

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:55:52AM -0400, Gary Mort wrote: > For desktop use, I switched to Linux Mint Mate. It is based on Ubuntu, > but it replaces their CPU intensive "Unity" desktop environment with a > modern version of "Gnome" which has a decent amount of eye candy without > impacting perf

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03:57AM -0400, Daniel Krook wrote: > And I don't mean to start a religious war, but if you were to set up a > server only cluster of VMs to serve up your own production PHP apps, what > would you choose today and why? Interesting question. Imagine running your stack

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Snyder
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Daniel Krook wrote: > > Chris, Hans, I never made the leap myself, but isn't much of this why you > two advocate/d the BSDs for AMP development? What's the reason for either > of you considering Ubuntu/CentOS today? I made the switch from FreeBSD to Debian a fe

Re: [nyphp-talk] CentOS v Ubuntu

2013-07-17 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:03:45AM -0400, Jesse Callaway wrote: > They're all terrible. Just handle process priority, memory management, and > open some sockets when asked. For the rest... stay out of the way. For > god's sake don't try to maintain a "system" java that symlinks to the > flavor of