Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-10-03 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hey Eddie: > And best of all, it's a performance nightmare! I've known people to > have a 40% PHP speed improvement just by swapping MDB2 out for PDO. But MDB2 actually works. PDO doesn't work completely for several DBMSes. Of course, it all depends what your needs are. --Dan -- T H E A

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-10-02 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Daniel Convissor wrote: > Hola Mitch: > >> Not to hijack the thread, but whatever came of PDO? > > It's suffering from lack of attention, like those monkeys given chicken > wire replicas instead of actual mothers. > > I'm biased toward PEAR projects, so would go wit

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-10-02 Thread Daniel Convissor
Hola Mitch: > Not to hijack the thread, but whatever came of PDO? It's suffering from lack of attention, like those monkeys given chicken wire replicas instead of actual mothers. I'm biased toward PEAR projects, so would go with MDB2 as an abstraction library. Solid community. Well maintaine

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-10-01 Thread Paul A Houle
Guilherme Blanco wrote: The PDO will be only considered a true abstraction layer when it fixes a couple of very painful issues it has. One good example is retrieving more than a single BLOB column from an Oracle database table.. it crashes PHP and most of the times, Apache. Patch was already sub

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-10-01 Thread Guilherme Blanco
The PDO will be only considered a true abstraction layer when it fixes a couple of very painful issues it has. One good example is retrieving more than a single BLOB column from an Oracle database table.. it crashes PHP and most of the times, Apache. Patch was already submitted to Chris, but it's

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > Not to hijack the thread, but whatever came of PDO? > > I know there was that whole PDO-vs-MDB thang and then MDB2 and > whatever, and never bothered to keep up. Now I got no idea what > happened. > > -- Mitch, blushing ever so slightly > It'

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread Mitch Pirtle
Not to hijack the thread, but whatever came of PDO? I know there was that whole PDO-vs-MDB thang and then MDB2 and whatever, and never bothered to keep up. Now I got no idea what happened. -- Mitch, blushing ever so slightly On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Guilherme Blanco wrote: > And surely.

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread Guilherme Blanco
And surely... if you have any doubts There're a huge documentation, 2 mailing lists, 1 IRC channel... and my contact that you can pick! =D I'm one of the core developers of Doctrine! =P Cheers, On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:06 PM, G Rundlett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Ajai Khatt

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread G Rundlett
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > >> [1] http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/wiki/Users/Introduction/Requirements > > BTW, FYI, Doctrine is destined to become the default ORM for symfony from > 1.3 onwards (1.3 alpha was releas

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > [1] http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/wiki/Users/Introduction/Requirements BTW, FYI, Doctrine is destined to become the default ORM for symfony from 1.3 onwards (1.3 alpha was released a few days ago so its a safe bet it will be released in the

Re: [nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-30 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > For example, since I may also develop OpenOffice applications that > interact with the PostgreSQL database through an ODBC driver, I am > thinking using the PDO ODBC [2] driver to connect to MSSQL might also > be better than using the 'experi

[nyphp-talk] Good DB abstraction layer

2009-09-29 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
I'm architecting the next-generation platform for web development at my company. I need to connect to a MSSQL Server for copying our data feed, and use PostgreSQL and MySQL locally. I'm looking at Symfony for application development and Drupal for Content Management plus functionality that fits w