Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
And lets take a look at what Apple did with the current version of Itunes. It's not nearly as accessible as it was in version 11. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:58 AM To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backwa

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
and the wo-is-me party continues... come on guys! instead of being so negative, be happy that we have all this great stuff. it may not work as well as we like sometimes, but we have it. On 1/14/2017 9:16 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: And lets take a look at what Apple did with the curren

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
It's a valid concern. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk > wrote: > > and the wo-is-me party continues... > > come on guys! instead of being so negative, be happy that we have all this > great stuff. it may not work as well as we like sometimes, but we

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread John Farley via Talk
And just what impact do these tales of woe have? Life moves on, do what mankind have done from the start and learn how to live with it. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@list

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Jay via Talk
Well said John. I agree with you 100 percent. We all have problems with accessibility, in one way or another. While we can bitch and moan about it, we also have to adapt to today's world. Just my thoughts on this. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:28 AM, John Farley via Talk > wrot

The Whine List

2017-01-14 Thread Peter Duran via Talk
Dan of GW Micro used to call this the "whine list" when folks grumbled about minor, although annoying problems, about screen readers or Windows Let's get real; the sighted community has complaints as well. That's why there are bug fixes and software updates! Peter Duran ___

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Patricia Krinke via Talk
Thanks, Chris. Your knowledge and positivity are wonderful! Thanks, Trish -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:59 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Going Backward in Accessibility? and the wo-is-me party conti

Re: The Whine List

2017-01-14 Thread Patricia Krinke via Talk
Thanks, Peter, for reminding us of what is important! Trish -Original Message- From: Peter Duran via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:49 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: The Whine List Dan of GW Micro used to call this the "whine list" when folks grumbled about mi

OT: Other Questions

2017-01-14 Thread Dave via Talk
Hello, I am looking for a good source to learn Programming. Python, C# and C++, are the three languages I have learned some of the basics. What I really need is a Book, or files that I can examine, line by line, to see the spacing, the formatting, and other small things I miss as I am listenin

RE: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Kevin Minor via Talk
Hi all. I agree with Chris to a point. We have more accessible programs than in the past, however, things could be better. I approach things with the saying, if you want to attract flies, it's better to use honey than vinegar. We need to convince manufacturers of software and other electroni

Word 2016 Spell Checker

2017-01-14 Thread Samuel Wilkins via Talk
Hello everyone, I'm having a problem after having installed Word 2016. Whenever I activate the spelling checker by using the context menu key on a word that is misspelled, Window-Eyes doesn't read the suggested alternatives, unless I do a right arrow and then left arrow back out of the menu.

Re: Email programs, Your Choice?

2017-01-14 Thread daniel udell via Talk
Hi Rod; Could you provide hints on how to best use outlook 365? Dan -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:53 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Email programs, Your Choice? Hi Dave, I subscribe to Office 365, and unl

Re: Word 2016 Spell Checker

2017-01-14 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk
I've had the same problem with Word 2010 or maybe 2012, can't remember, ever since installing the latest WE. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Samuel Wilkins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:01 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Word 2016 Spell Checker Hel

Re: The Whine List

2017-01-14 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Did they really? I am sure that on occasions, the list which was set up by GW Micro distracted staff and management from the real job in hand, but it would seem unlikely that they would disrespect paying customers (as some of us still are) by describing behaviours as whining! Right now: t

Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Dave via Talk
Had too much time on my hands the other day, so decided to Call the folks over at JAWS to see what their current pricing would be for a new copy of JAWS 18. I was told $1100 then I asked if I would receive a discount if I owned Window eyes. Theguy told me, No, the price for a new copy of JAWS

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
How much is a new copy of WE? On 1/14/2017 5:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > Had too much time on my hands the other day, so decided to Call the > folks over at JAWS to see what their current pricing would be for a new > copy of JAWS 18. > > I was told $1100 > > then I asked if I would receive a dis

RE: Word 2016 Spell Checker

2017-01-14 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Samuel, Yes, I see this problem too; if you route the mouse pointer to the menu, you can read the suggestions using the mouse line up and line down keys. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Samuel Wi

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
One point you're missing is that accessibility could be designed into much of this stuff if they wanted to. Obviously they don't care. My stereo system that is 30 years old is much more accessible than stuff that is out there these days. Just because it is the latest doesn't make it the grea

Re: Word 2016 Spell Checker

2017-01-14 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk
qBut I can't see the wortd they are flagging to replafe. -Bob -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 2:59 PM To: Samuel Wilkins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Word 2016 Spell Checker Hi Samuel, Yes, I see this problem too; if you ro

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
NVDA for the win! absolutely free, does a lot of great stuff and has many great plugins. also free. Everyone forgets this. When you get it the voice is absolutely atrocious, but better voices for it can be purchased. On 1/14/2017 5:47 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: How much is a

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Loy via Talk
I think it is $895. - Original Message - From: Nick Sarames via Talk To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day How much is a new copy of WE? On 1/14/2017 5:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > Had to

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I'm sure it's not as simple as, "they don't care." On 1/14/2017 6:25 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > One point you're missing is that accessibility could be designed into > much of this stuff if they wanted to. Obviously they don't care. My > stereo system that is 30 years old is much more ac

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
I'm leaving this list! All you do is talk about window eyes being dead, and their is not any real substance anymore! RJ On 1/14/2017 7:19 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: > I think it is $895. >- Original Message - >From: Nick Sarames via Talk >To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Don H via Talk
As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent th

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Hey I certainly understand SMAA concerns, and upgrade issues, but the ones who deserve sympathy are the ones who are not on this list yet, the ones who may want to purchase WE for the first time, and are unsure whether they can. We're lucky, we can use WE probably for a while. It's not as if d

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
Hi Don, >As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes. I have the latest NVDA but have not yet found this DEC Access 32 addin. Is it perchance free? I do lament not being able to assign hotkeys in NVDA

RE: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Charles Short via Talk
It's $20.00 for the cd. Charlie Short -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:47 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

RE: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hi. To read to end in NVDA, you press the insert key and the down arrow key. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:22 PM To: Don H eyes.com>; Chris Skarstad; Wind

Re: OT: Other Questions

2017-01-14 Thread David via Talk
Well, if anyone does know, please send the info my way as well. Would like to learn a bit more about things like Python and C++. On 1/14/2017 7:16 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a good source to learn Programming. Python, C# and C++, > are the three languages I have lear

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Goodbye. \ On 1/15/2017 1:58 PM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I'm leaving this list! All you do is talk about window eyes being dead, and their is not any real substance anymore! RJ On 1/14/2017 7:19 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I think it is $895. - Original Message - From: Nick

RE: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Dave, Often VFO runs extreme discounts around the consumer conventions in July. I received my home edition of JAWS 16 for $75 in 2015, and the same thing was offered last summer. I was able to upgrade it for $250 to the professional version that could run on a corporate computer. If you are int

RE: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: One thing I can gather from this is that the folks handling JAWS do not have much information either. Right now, it does not matter to the folks selling JAWS that any of us have WE licenses. All it means is that the folks selling JAWS have not been told anything about some kind of special

Re: Going Backward in Accessibility?

2017-01-14 Thread peter Chin via Talk
Hello Steve, Thanks very much for your well explained message. I completely agree with you. Let those blind people who feel smug about their ability to adapt to changes take note. Dave brought up the problem about the washing machine.I think that those blind people using electronic keyboards t

Re: New app - Easy Calendar 1.0!

2017-01-14 Thread peter Chin via Talk
Hello Rod, Thanks very much for all the work you have been doing to help us. I have been using some of your apps and I find them very helpful. I think this new one will be very useful. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:42

Re: Called JAWS the other day

2017-01-14 Thread Robert Grimwood via Talk
Dear Joseph, thank you for your thoughtful and perceptive comments. Those of us who are being kept in the dark have a right to feel frustrated and, maybe angry, but we are just going to have to wait and see. I would suggest that, for the sake of our mental health, we try to calm down unti

Accessible Twitter clients

2017-01-14 Thread Robert Grimwood via Talk
Dear all, I am using Windows 10 with the latest WE. I have tried Qube and Chignug. The key combinations do not seem to work with WE of Jaws. Can anyone make suggestions? Regards, Robert Grimwood ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email