Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-18 Thread Lester Caine
Robin Paulson wrote: > i was looking for a tag to name new zealand, and it appears there are > no tags for places at this high level, at least in potlatch, or here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:place > > is there any consensus on this? > > has anyone made any attempt to distin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-18 Thread Lester Caine
Alex Mauer wrote: > I've added a decision tree to the physical section of the page, as well > as removed the "boulevard" designation (since it didn't really add much) > > I'd like to have some more comments from the UK and german end, as to > whether or not A and B roads (and others?) fit into t

[OSM-talk] New Lakewalker JOSM plugin release

2008-02-18 Thread Jason Reid
A new version of the lakewalker plugin is now available. This release features a substantial change to the original plugin that Brent Easton put together to interface with Daryl Shpak's python script, in that the actual work of the plugin has been ported to Java and included within the plugin.

Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos on Linux

2008-02-18 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 12:52 +0100, Igor Brejc wrote: > Hello Frederik, > > I used the Linux image from the Mono site which has all of the mono > components already included, so I'm not exactly sure what components > are needed. Do you have the latest version of Mono (1.2.6)? > The exception throw

Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 18 de Febrero de 2008, Martin Trautmann escribió: > NUTS is ok for certain statistical classification - but it may add on > one hand levels just by population which will cause splits which are not > known within the country itself. OK, let's skip those extra levels altogether. For examp

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering Quarries

2008-02-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Feb 18, 2008 7:39 PM, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > landuse=quarry > >|- -| >|- -| >|- -| >|- -| >|- -| I would like those "saw tooth" lines to signify a steep cliff as w

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-02-18 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What topics would be useful? Is [tagging] in the Subject: header what's wanted just now? [RFC], [voting]? -- Było mi bardzo miło. Czwarta pospolita klęska, [...] >Łukasz< Już nie katolicka lecz złodziejska. (c)PP -

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Tom Hughes wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format of a JOSM change file. No, I was reading the pa

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions

2008-02-18 Thread Alex Mauer
I've added a decision tree to the physical section of the page, as well as removed the "boulevard" designation (since it didn't really add much) I'd like to have some more comments from the UK and german end, as to whether or not A and B roads (and others?) fit into the highway:admin scheme. A

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19/02/2008, Christoph Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Sadly, it seems to be frozen in a proposal state forever and is therefore > > not rendered on the two main maps yet. > > so why not open it for voting? I've mapped some and would vote for it :) . for consistency, this would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosis and Bounding Boxes

2008-02-18 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 18, 2008 1:47 PM, Stuart Poulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > No problems with the usage of multiple bounding boxes, infact in this case > 14 of them. Each one output to a single file. > Looks like the simplest solution may be to have a 15th polygon and output > this to a final file

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > Sadly, it seems to be frozen in a proposal state forever and is therefore > not rendered on the two main maps yet. so why not open it for voting? I've mapped some and would vote for it :) . Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreet

[OSM-talk] Durham Mapping Party

2008-02-18 Thread Gregory
I've set a date for a Durham mapping party. 7&8th June. http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2008/02/mapping-party-for-durham http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Durham_mapping_party I seem to remember a few people wanting an excuse to come up to this beautiful city in the North of England (World

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Martin Simon
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 17:18:37 schrieb Andy Allan: > Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays > contours. > > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/02/18/one-leg-longer-than >-the-other/ > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=13&lat=6746094.87258&lo

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosis and Bounding Boxes

2008-02-18 Thread Stuart Poulton
Hi, No problems with the usage of multiple bounding boxes, infact in this case 14 of them. Each one output to a single file. Looks like the simplest solution may be to have a 15th polygon and output this to a final file. Cheers Stuart On 18 Feb 2008, at 21:42, Gregory wrote: I've heard

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-18 Thread Gregory
Ah silly me, I should of known about googlemail/gmail. Thanks. On 18/02/2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gregory wrote: > >Sent: 18 February 2008 8:01 PM > >To: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI > > > >I tried posting this to de

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosis and Bounding Boxes

2008-02-18 Thread Gregory
I've heard you can only do one bounding box and nothing clever. On 18/02/2008, Stuart Poulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Can anyone advise. > > If I'm extracting a series of bounding boxes to seperate files, can I also > extract the entire area to one file at the same time ? >

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: > > > Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that > > documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format > > of a JOSM change file. > > No, I was reading the page

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Tom Hughes wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 10, 2008 10:51 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All right I confess. I have done something like that to the node 300 a while ago. But while you are considering so

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Gregory wrote: >Sent: 18 February 2008 8:01 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI > >I tried posting this to dev but I get told I'm not a member (despite >getting dev messages, and when subscribing to dev I get told I'm already a >member). Feel free to forwa

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC - new key - historic=wreck

2008-02-18 Thread Tim Sheerman-Chase
Greetings all, I proposed a new feature historic=wreck a while back but I forgot to send it out on the mailing list. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/wreck Please leave your comments on the wiki page. Regards, Tim (TimSC)

[OSM-talk] Osmosis and Bounding Boxes

2008-02-18 Thread Stuart Poulton
Hi All, Can anyone advise. If I'm extracting a series of bounding boxes to seperate files, can I also extract the entire area to one file at the same time ? I'm currently using. ../osmosis-0.24/bin/osmosis --read-xml file="../planet-080102.osm.bz2" \ --tee 3 \ --bounding-box top="60

Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-18 Thread Martin Trautmann
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > I really like the NUTS system, as it is politically neutral, and balanced > between different countries. IMHO, OSM should have a similar classification > system. NUTS is ok for certain statistical classification - but it may add on one hand levels just by population

Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-18 Thread Martin Trautmann
Robin Paulson wrote: > i was looking for a tag to name new zealand, and it appears there are > no tags for places at this high level, at least in potlatch, or here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:place > > is there any consensus on this? What makes a city does differ from country

[OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-18 Thread Gregory
I tried posting this to dev but I get told I'm not a member (despite getting dev messages, and when subscribing to dev I get told I'm already a member). Feel free to forward to dev... - Hi all, I've been trying to work on using OSM in cool/new ways, but only been a

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering Quarries

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19/02/2008, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd really like you to render quarries. In mapnik, some kind of orange with > an outer line with stingers pointing inwards would be fine. landuse=quarry > is listed on the feature map: > > >+-+ >|

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19/02/2008, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays > contours. > > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/02/18/one-leg-longer-than-the-other/ > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=13&lat=6746094.87258&lon=-37

[OSM-talk] Rendering Quarries

2008-02-18 Thread Karl Eichwalder
I'd really like you to render quarries. In mapnik, some kind of orange with an outer line with stingers pointing inwards would be fine. landuse=quarry is listed on the feature map: +-+ | ||| | |- -| |- -|

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19/02/2008, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaaarrgggh! > > Deliberately tagging things incorrectly is bad practice. There are so > many renderers out there that if what you do works for more than one > of them that's just coincidence. And when bad practices like th

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Daniel Challen
On 18/02/2008, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays > contours. Fantastic work. Thank you Andy :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-b

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Keith Sharp
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 16:18 +, Andy Allan wrote: > Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays > contours. > > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/02/18/one-leg-longer-than-the-other/ > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=13&lat=6746094.87258&lon=-

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Bernd Raichle
On Monday, 18 February 2008 16:01:46 +, 80n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's definitely wrong to adjust the layer just to make the rendered output > look better. If a renderer has deficiencies use render-specific tags to solve them ... until the renderer is fixed to make these tags obsolet

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 18 Feb 2008, at 16:18, Andy Allan wrote: > Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now > displays contours. > > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/02/18/one-leg- > longer-than-the-other/ > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/? > zoom=13&lat=6746094.87258&lon=-

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Andy Allan wrote: >Sent: 18 February 2008 4:19 PM >To: OSM Talk >Subject: [OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map > >Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays >contours. > Mega awesome of awsomeness Cheers Andy ___ talk maili

[OSM-talk] Contours on the Cycle Map

2008-02-18 Thread Andy Allan
Ask and ye shall, eventually, receive. The OSM cycle map now displays contours. http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/02/18/one-leg-longer-than-the-other/ http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=13&lat=6746094.87258&lon=-372688.399&layers=B00 etc. Contours appear progressively from z

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread bvh
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:51:38AM +, Steve Chilton wrote: > > What a professional road atlas would do here is very likely to exaggerate > > the junction so that it makes sense given the width using to render the > > roads. Doing this algorithmically is hard, but probably not impossible. > that

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 18, 2008 2:50 PM, Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/02/2008, Jeremy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My "fix" for the situation you linked to was to set motorway_links to > > layer=-1. This puts them underneath the main roads and makes the map look > > much nicer IMO.

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread 80n
It's definitely wrong to adjust the layer just to make the rendered output look better. The layer tag should represent the true relative position of roads. Incidentally, if a ramp connects two roads at different levels then should it be layer=0 at one end and layer=1 at the other, with the split

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Dermot McNally
On 18/02/2008, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the slip roads are not really underneath the other roads then > yes it is definitely wrong (IMHO). The layer tag is meant to describe > the physical ordering of the roads on the ground. > > If something isn't rendering right the solution is

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/02/2008, Jeremy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My "fix" for the situation you linked to was to set motorway_links > > to layer=-1. This puts them underneath the main roads and makes > > the map look m

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Dermot McNally
On 18/02/2008, Jeremy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My "fix" for the situation you linked to was to set motorway_links to > layer=-1. This puts them underneath the main roads and makes the map look > much nicer IMO. By co-incidence, I was in contact with another mapper who's been doing som

Re: [OSM-talk] Caption competition

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Williams
OJ W wrote: > The OSM cartoon has apparently become CC now: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Openstreetmap_cartoon.jpg > > - would anyone like to write a caption, for use as the easter-week featured > image? > "Oh Ye'll tak the High Road, & I'll tak the Low Road, & I'll have ma

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Jeremy Adams
My "fix" for the situation you linked to was to set motorway_links to layer=-1. This puts them underneath the main roads and makes the map look much nicer IMO. See here for a similar example in my area: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.97273&lon=174.81833&zoom=16&layers=B0FT -Jeremy Original

Re: [OSM-talk] place=country/nation/state

2008-02-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 18 de Febrero de 2008, Robin Paulson escribió: > i was looking for a tag to name new zealand, and it appears there are > no tags for places at this high level, at least in potlatch, or here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:place > > is there any consensus on this? > > has

Re: [OSM-talk] [SOLVED] Error installing OpenStreetMap

2008-02-18 Thread Listas
Listas escribió: > Hello, I am trying to install my own test server but when I am doing this: > > rake db:migrate VERSION=10 > > I have this error: > > (in /usr/local/osm/svn.openstreetmap.org/sites/rails_port) > ** Invoke db:migrate (first_time) > ** Invoke environment (first_time) > ** Execute en

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Steve Chilton
snip: > What a professional road atlas would do here is very likely to exaggerate > the junction so that it makes sense given the width using to render the > roads. Doing this algorithmically is hard, but probably not impossible. that sounds very bad, ugly and wrong on many levels. whether it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos on Linux

2008-02-18 Thread Igor Brejc
Hello Frederik, I used the Linux image from the Mono site which has all of the mono components already included, so I'm not exactly sure what components are needed. Do you have the latest version of Mono (1.2.6)? The exception thrown looks like indicating that ToolTip:Hide isn't implemented in Mon

Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos on Linux

2008-02-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi Igor, thanks for building a Linux version! On my machine (Ubuntu Gutsy) it starts up, but when I open a project, after displaying "Loading..." for a while, the program quits with the following message: ** (Kosmos.Gui.exe:29424): WARNING **: Missing method System.Windows.Forms.ToolTip::

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 18/02/2008, Abigail Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > line is probably twice the width of the actual road. this causes > > problems at even simple motorway junctions, as the whole thing becomes > > a big blue mess. could i request this be looked into? > > > > Well, if this isn't done, then ro

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 17, 2008 10:42 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.97273&lon=174.81833&zoom=16&layers=B0FT > > is a good example, which is a very simple junction I didn't check this particular case, but the on/off ramps should be motorway_link which (IIRC) are r

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Abigail Brady
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why are roads displayed so thickly? I was looking at osm data overlaid > on oam, and realised that for a lot of roads, at some zoom scales, the > line is probably twice the width of the actual road. this causes > problems at even