Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Browet wrote: > It's fairly standard usage, you see a doctor at the doctors, a butcher > runs the butchers. There should really be an apostrophe in there I > think, ie: the butcher's shop, the doctor's surgery. But that's not > re

[OSM-talk] Vector rendering on the client?

2008-10-31 Thread Greg
A newb question: I think I'm on safe ground with my presumption that maps are recorded and stored in vector format. I observe that whan I try to _use_ the map (on Firefox 3 on SuSE 10.3/Linux) it takes a long time to render and does so in a bitmap format. Since my browser is able to rende

[OSM-talk] OSMers - The State of the Map needs you!

2008-10-31 Thread Nick Black
OSMers - The State of the Map needs you! You've all heard about SOTM07 in Manchester, and SOTM08 in Ireland. The stories of inspiring talks, luscious lunches, evenings filled with talk of tagging and debate over who has the most accurate GPS chipset. If you are a local OSM community leader, mapp

[OSM-talk] Rejected map features

2008-10-31 Thread OJ W
It looks like map features are now being marked as rejected if their wiki page hasn't been updated often enough, e.g. aerodromes, intermittant lakes, public internet terminals, websites, wikipedia links, comedy clubs, free/paid tags, rack railways, checkpoints, bullrings, towpaths, building attribu

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mark Williams wrote: > The apostrophe is not correct anyway. It denotes a missed letter, in > this word-position it would be 'doctor is', as opposed to the > non-apostrophe version meaning 'belong to the the doctor' or plural > doctors. Heehee, don't get me started. "doctor's" is the appropria

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector rendering on the client?

2008-10-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Greg wrote: > I think I'm on safe ground with my presumption that maps are recorded and > stored in vector format. True, but they are also automatically processed into bitmaps, which then get delivered to the browser. > I observe that whan I try to _use_ the map (on > Firefox 3 on SuSE 1

Re: [OSM-talk] SEO

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > One quick win. When you search for OpenStreetMap on your favourite > search engine, it returns something like this: > > OpenStreetMap > Licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 > license by the OpenStreetMap project and its contributors. ... >

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The apostrophe is not correct anyway. It denotes a missed letter, in >> this word-position it would be 'doctor is', as opposed to the >> non-apostrophe version meaning 'belong to the the doctor' or plural doctors. > > I

Re: [OSM-talk] Rejected map features

2008-10-31 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:04 AM, OJ W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I also agree that changing the proposed features status from 'draft' to 'abandoned' wihtout any discussion is too hard. I would recommend to restore the previous status ('draft') or something like 'not very active' for all the featu

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Very interesting. Thank you, Richard. "Doctor's" sounds a bit common to me. "Surgery" is far better... Cheers, Lucas De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Richard Fairhurst Enviado el: vie 31/10/2008 10:20 Para: OSM-Talk Asunto: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some am

Re: [OSM-talk] Rejected map features

2008-10-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, OJ W wrote: > It looks like map features are now being marked as rejected if their > wiki page hasn't been updated often enough, e.g. aerodromes, > intermittant lakes, public internet terminals, websites, wikipedia > links, comedy clubs, free/paid tags, rack railways, checkpoints, > bullrings,

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Dave Stubbs
> > The apostrophe is not correct anyway. It denotes a missed letter, in > this word-position it would be 'doctor is', as opposed to the > non-apostrophe version meaning 'belong to the the doctor' or plural doctors. I think you're thinking of "its" as in the news group alt.its.possessive.has.no.a

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector rendering on the client?

2008-10-31 Thread Thomas Wood
2008/10/31 Stephan Schildberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would suggest to inform yourself about http://openlayers.org/ , which > solve some of your demands, although not with SVG. > It does use SVG, and has VML support for IE, however, nice rendering is beyond the scope of the project. Its current l

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-bf - Burkina Faso

2008-10-31 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-bf - Burkina Faso-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Helge Fahrnberger for initiating and hosting this forum. The main goal in this African state is to produce a paper city map of the capital city Ouagadougou by the end of 2009. For details

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector rendering on the client?

2008-10-31 Thread Stephan Schildberg
I would suggest to inform yourself about http://openlayers.org/ , which solve some of your demands, although not with SVG. regards, Stephan. > > > I think I'm on safe ground with my presumption that maps are recorded and > stored in vector format. I observe that whan I try to _use_ the map (on

Re: [OSM-talk] Vector rendering on the client?

2008-10-31 Thread Eric Wolf
Amongst us Paleo-geographers, there's an old saying: "Vector's better but raster's faster." I just finished writing a paper for a conference in February where I had my programmer look at doing some basic geoprocessing of vector data in the browser with OpenLayers. We encountered a number of issue

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread elvin ibbotson
From: Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 October 2008 07:21:30 GMT To: Chris Browet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: OSM-Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "Map Features" based on tag usage -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Browet wrote: It

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread elvin ibbotson
From: "Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 October 2008 11:44:49 GMT To: "Richard Fairhurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "OSM-Talk" Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage Very interesting. Thank you, Richard. "Doctor's" sound

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de elvin ibbotson Having said that, I tend to go along with the school of thought that we would be as well of without any apostrophes so amenity=doctors seems fine. elvin ibbotson "school of tho

[OSM-legal-talk] [Announcement] new mailing list: legal-general

2008-10-31 Thread Mike Collinson
After some requests and OSMF board discussion, I've created a new mailing list: legal-general We'd ask that higher level discussions such as pd etc move to that from the existing legal-talk and that we keep legal-talk to specific practical issues regarding OSM's actual license and, in what is t

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Daniel Taylor
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: > Very interesting. Thank you, Richard. "Doctor's" sounds a bit common to me. > "Surgery" is far better... > > Cheers, > Lucas > Wait but is that a 'surgery' in a hospital?, a doctors 'surgery'? or a veterinary 'surgery'? doctors-surgery*, would probably be

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread elvin ibbotson
From: "Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 October 2008 16:31:03 GMT To: "elvin ibbotson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to "MapFeatures" based on tag usage From: "Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio" <[EMAIL PROT

[OSM-legal-talk] New "official" mailing list for public domain and other legal discussions.

2008-10-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
There has been a mailing list created for discussions related to the release of OSM data into the public domain. It can also be used to discuss other licensing/legal issues not directly related to the new license. Hopefully this will reduce some of the chatter on this list and will allow work on th

[OSM-legal-talk] Understanding the new license - room for negotiation?

2008-10-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I've been encouraged to try and address my concerns with the new license, as an alternative to pushing foward with the release of my OSM data into the public domain. There is really one aspect of the new license that is my biggest concern. I want to make sure that I understand the issue properly, a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Understanding the new license - room for negotiation?

2008-10-31 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 31 de Octubre de 2008, Sunburned Surveyor escribió: [...] > Does the new license ever require my company to release the land use > polygon data in the above scenario? No. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAI

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Understanding the new license - room for negotiation?

2008-10-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Does the new license ever require my company to release the land use > polygon data in the above scenario? No. > In essence my company would be "dual licensing" the road centerline > data. Indeed. Lots of us already dual-license our contributions to OSM: http://wiki

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Understanding the new license - room for negotiation?

2008-10-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Does the new license ever require my company to release the land use > polygon data in the above scenario? As long as you don't use anything from OSM, no OSM license in the world can force you to do anything. The fact that you have contributed something to OSM is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Understanding the new license - room for negotiation?

2008-10-31 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Viernes, 31 de Octubre de 2008, Sunburned Surveyor escribió: > [...] >> Does the new license ever require my company to release the land use >> polygon data in the above scenario? > > No. :-) I think however a us

[OSM-talk] Proposed feature change?

2008-10-31 Thread Nicholas Vetrovec
when was it decided to change the proposal procces and all of its features???  I worked very hard to get this set up correctly and working properly... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature change?

2008-10-31 Thread Shaun McDonald
Can you please elaborate/explain what you mean? On 1 Nov 2008, at 00:32, Nicholas Vetrovec wrote: > when was it decided to change the proposal procces and all of its > features??? I worked very hard to get this set up correctly and > working properly... > > __

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature change?

2008-10-31 Thread Nicholas Vetrovec
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features Has been completly modified by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Phobie and tha assosiated templates and catagories have also been changed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Category:Proposals_admin - Original Mes