Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to some of the MapQuest questions

2010-07-13 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, I started a wiki page of 'MapQuest' and hope that others will contribute to it. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapQuest The idea is to include a listing of what the top requests are as a 'OSM user Wishlist'. And try to list the FAQ's (we can add in your answers) that way, people wont be as

Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?

2010-07-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Alex Mauer wrote: > Another case where I’ve found it especially useful to share nodes, even > between routable and non-routable objects, is for speed limits.  In at > least one case that I’m aware of, the speed limit is defined in the law > as “on XXX street, from

Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?

2010-07-13 Thread Steve Bennett
Thanks for that. I'll probably get the GoPro Helmet Hero HD, as I like the look of the timelapse modes. On a tangent, this weekend I went out to map a couple of walking/mountain biking paths. Rode 100km, including about 50km of trails that weren't on OSM. Got back home and discovered that my most

[OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-13 Thread John Smith
There has been a slightly disturbing thread on the legal-talk list about defining critical mass, so far things aren't any closer to being defined and statistics are being abused to suit positions: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-July/003453.html At this stage I'll not be

Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

2010-07-13 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 July 2010 20:08, Peter Herison wrote: > > Maybe it's something with my provider (Alice/HanseNet)?! > Alice.de does something very weird to DNS. I very occasionally get random reports of users reaching my personal website instead of OpenStreetMap.org (osm has never been pointed at my person

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/13 Kai Krueger : > If Richard's statement relayed through Frederik of that at least 90% of data > is an absolute minimum becomes binding, (which would still leave a huge > amount of room for wiggeling, after all 10% of data would be still 1 1/2 > entire Germanys, or nearly all of Europe), mu

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/13 Chris Fleming : >> A common statement by those "on the inside". >> Membership of OSMF costs money. I have enough money for that sort of >> expense >> but not everyone does. >> > > True it does cost money; but it's not a massive amount. this is entirely relative and not true for who is (

Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

2010-07-13 Thread Peter Herison
Am 12.07.2010 23:04, schrieb Peter Herison: > Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch? > http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=39.111598&lon=-94.712041&zoom=19 ... I had no problems today in the office. Everything works fine, but... ... now, home again: Potlatch looks exactl

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > > Banks seem like a bit of a special case, since people expect the map > to display only the name of the banking company. The name should be > the name of the particular branch something like "HSBC Putney" or > "Santander Hounslow" or whatever

[OSM-talk] User Juergenian vandalism

2010-07-13 Thread Anthony
Hi! User Juergenian (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Juergenian) has vandalized Russian Nenets autonomous district (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/608648126/history) + made some very strange edits within that area (he has reverted some of them himself). I've written him, but got n

[OSM-talk] Responding to some of the MapQuest questions

2010-07-13 Thread Ant The Limey
Hi all Just wanted to get out a response to some of the MapQuest questions from the other day. If i missed any, or you have more, just let me know. Scalebar bugs: yes, scale bar is broken. It doesn't change on scroll wheel zoom. Scale itself is also inaccurate, as it was originally written for

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/12 Alan Mintz : > For gas stations, the name of the supplying oil company would be properly > described as the "brand" (e.g. Shell, Mobil). If someone asked me for the > "operator" of the station, I would take this to be synonymous with "owner", > and it would be unlikely to know who it is (

Re: [OSM-talk] help.osm.org still buggy

2010-07-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/07/10 16:44, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I posted a question: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/153/how-do-you-tell-if-a-minor-service-road-is-accessprivate-destination-or-permissive But I can't view it. Apparently others have been able to respond and downvote it, but when I go to the ab

[OSM-talk] help.osm.org still buggy

2010-07-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I posted a question: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/153/how-do-you-tell-if-a-minor-service-road-is-accessprivate-destination-or-permissive But I can't view it. Apparently others have been able to respond and downvote it, but when I go to the above URL I get: 500 Server Error sorry, system

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-13 01:34, David Murn wrote: If the big logo on the sign out the front says Texasco, then that should be the operator. That's exactly wrong, though, if it is not a Texaco-owned/operated station, and this can be hard to determine by casual observation. There needs to be a place to p

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Phil! Gold
* David Murn [2010-07-13 18:34 +1000]: > If the big logo on the sign out the front says Texasco, then that should > be the operator. No, if the big sign says Texaco, than the name should at least include "Texaco". But that particular Texaco is being operated by someone else (i.e. not the global

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Tobias Knerr wrote: > > And exactly that is the problem. Mappers didn't have a say in > > starting the license change process > > Yes, they did. After about four years of licence discussion among mappers, > OSMF held a vote last autumn in which 89%

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Richard Mann
I'm not sure an operator or a brand tag helps. Surely it's about different names people call things. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/298272351 I'd advise using loc_name (The Randolph) or alt_name (Randolph Hotel) if you ask for directions. I'd probably prefer name=Randolph Hotel alt_nam

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM, David Murn wrote: > > > > As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name' in > some > > cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of these > cases. For > > example > > name=the fancy hotel > > brand=best western > > operator=

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 07:45 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > John Smith wrote: > > On 13 July 2010 06:59, Pieren wrote: > >> I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the > >> facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we > >> should > >> not suggest to

Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

2010-07-13 Thread Roman Neumüller
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:12:42 +0300, wrote: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:04:29 +0200 From: Peter Herison To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Does anyone encounter errors loading

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 08:41:21AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > When one starts to look at 'McDonalds', 'KFC' and 'Burger King' then while > they > are franchises, the name is the 'brand', but a group of 'McDonalds' may well > be > operated by a single local business ... certainly overseas. Thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Lester Caine
Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-07-12 23:45, Lester Caine wrote: ... As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name' in some cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of these cases. For example name=the fancy hotel brand=best western operator=the local best west

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-13 00:06, Alex S. wrote: It gets even worse - the name on the sign might be 'Big Corner Texaco' but it's also 'Texaco #123456', etc. (All that stuff, including operator, is posted on a window next to the main door, at least all the fuel stations I've been to) name="Big Corner Texa

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-12 23:45, Lester Caine wrote: ... As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name' in some cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of these cases. For example name=the fancy hotel brand=best western operator=the local best western franchise

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alex S.
Lester Caine wrote: petrol stations and other 'franchise' type operations will have the same more complex relations ... BUT for example, I have a 'fast fuel' fuel card which can be used at any Texaco garage, but the operator of those garages may not be Texaco, so should I be adding a 'fastfuel'