Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in the database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, and that Nominatim is using the values from the nearest noses that have those tags filled in. [c

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:07, Richard Welty wrote: > On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: >> My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in the >> database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, and >> that Nominatim is using the values fro

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: >> >> My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in >> the database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, >> and that Nominatim is using the va

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/11 12:59 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in the database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, and that

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 1/1/11 12:59 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Welty >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/11 1:43 PM, Anthony wrote: It looks to me like the core database is correct. Biittig Road (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5629489) is not in Averill Park (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/175579). ok, i didn't think i need to cover this. the name Averill Park has

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 1/1/11 1:43 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >> It looks to me like the core database is correct.  Biittig Road >> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5629489) is not in Averill >> Park (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/175579). >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Welty wrote: >> 3) there's a post office, which delivers to a Very Large Area, much >> larger than the boundaries of the CDP. the actual postal addressing >> is what people going to Nominatim are likely to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
i'm not getting a strong sense of an architecture for getting this data into Nominatim in a useful way, just a bundle of opinions about specific details. it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the Nominatim stuff i foun

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/01/11 23:06, Richard Welty wrote: it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the Nominatim stuff i found in the wiki. they want postal code polygons in the database; in the US this is the extremely iffy zip code boun

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > but i did find a workaround. i added > > is_in=Averill Park, NY, US > > to Biittig Road Which is incorrect. Biittig Road is not in Averill Park. Just like Linkwood Ave is not in Tampa, Florida. And Altair Drive is not in Sewell, New Jersey

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
I agree. Don't forget it is the holiday and people take more time to reply. What would be nice from Nominatim point of view is the creation of a page where you would enter your test cases and what you expect. That would allow the developer of nominatim to include those in his test suite. It would m

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Brian Quinion
> it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that > noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the Hi. Yes, I've been off doing new year type things. I'm playing catchup on my email now - and I've still got a hangover so please accept my apologies if anything is incoher

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Brian Quinion
> I agree. Don't forget it is the holiday and people take more time to reply. > What would be nice from Nominatim point of view is the creation of a page > where you would enter your test cases and what you expect. That would allow > the developer of nominatim to include those in his test suite. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/11 7:54 PM, Brian Quinion wrote: it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the Hi. Yes, I've been off doing new year type things. I'm playing catchup on my email now - and I've still got a hangover so please acce

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Anthony
>>> what i still don't get is how it figures out the correct zip code of >>> 12018 >>> for the displayed result string, i guess there's some research to be >>> done yet. >> >> I've back ported some code from the new version a couple of weeks back >> which tries to improve postcode handling for addr

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/1/11 2:32 PM, Anthony wrote: Yes, and that's something that definitely does *not* belong in OSM. If Nominatim wants to do this sort of lookup (and it probably should), the shapefiles can be downloaded here (http://www.census.gov/geo/ZCTA/zcta.html). i opened up the local one and checked it

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim & US places

2011-01-01 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 23:34 -0500, Anthony wrote: > This only gives one of the possibly many acceptable city names for a > zip code (e.g. for 12205 it gives ROESSLEVILLE). A zip can have more > than one acceptable city name. See > http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.jsp > > For geocoding, yo