Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Frank Heinen
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 23 mrt. 2011 om 15:19 heeft Greg Troxel het volgende geschreven: > > Russ Nelson writes: > >> Pieren writes: >>> Are we forced to read every two months the same thread, the same >>> approximations, the same lies, the same trolls on this list ? >> >> The streng

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Frank Heinen
Z,akskjsjkjdi Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 23 mrt. 2011 om 15:19 heeft Greg Troxel het volgende geschreven: > > Russ Nelson writes: > >> Pieren writes: >>> Are we forced to read every two months the same thread, the same >>> approximations, the same lies, the same trolls on this list ? >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 05:49, David Murn wrote: > > The problem is, any fork under the existing licence can continue without > problem.  Any fork under the new licence, cannot use any data unless the > user who contributed that data can/will give them 100% rights.  Those > against the ODbL can fork any

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
F. Heinen wrote: > Z,akskjsjkjdi That certainly wins the prize for the most coherent posting in this thread. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Licensing-Working-Group-tp6199509p6207146.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Grant Slater writes: > > > > Not true. ODbL licensed data *can* be forked at any time without > asking anyone for their blessing. > > I don't see how you come to the conclusion otherwise. The Licensing > Working Group consulted with a lawyer during drafting of the ODbL to > ensure that the ODbL

[OSM-talk] Osmosis and keeping a local subset of OSM data up-to-date

2011-03-25 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, I don't know how big the overlap is for talk and help.osm.org, and for those that don't know / use it - please have a look, it's a great resource that allows for very rich interaction for all things Q&A-style. For now, I am just wondering if any of you have any insights to offer on my par

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 10:57, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > Grant Slater writes: >> >> Not true. ODbL licensed data *can* be forked at any time without >> asking anyone for their blessing. >> >> I don't see how you come to the conclusion otherwise. The Licensing >> Working Group consulted with a lawyer during

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > F. Heinen wrote: > > Z,akskjsjkjdi > > That certainly wins the prize for the most coherent posting in this thread. > lol. Probably the most comprehensive summary about the licence change process itself... Pieren ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Phil! Gold
* Simon Poole [2011-03-23 13:03 +0100]: > Am 23.03.2011 12:52, schrieb Steve Doerr: > >I'm still waiting for an official request for users to sign up to > >the new terms. Have I missed one? > > No you haven't. I thought I'd seen an announcement for the voluntary relicensing (the phace of the ODBL

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Simon Poole
There is a big difference between an announcement to this list and on the web site and sending an e-mail to each individual mapper. The former only reaches a minority (very likely a small minority) of the mappers. Besides the fact the most mappers don't actually read this list (for example beca

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/03/11 14:13, Simon Poole wrote: > I've personally been in contact with quite active mappers that months > after August 2010 didn't realize that they could actually sign up to the > CTs (this includes mappers that participated in the OSMF vote on the > license change!). To this date the headl

Re: [OSM-talk] Analysing the OSM community

2011-03-25 Thread Matthias Meißer
Unfortunatly my professor decided not to support this kind of research. I might start another try at the end of the year. Of course only if nobody else did it before ;) cya Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:25:21 + Tom Hughes wrote: > On 25/03/11 14:13, Simon Poole wrote: > > > I've personally been in contact with quite active mappers that > > months after August 2010 didn't realize that they could actually > > sign up to the CTs (this includes mappers that participated i

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping 'risky areas'

2011-03-25 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-02-21 09:10, Mike N wrote: I have seen this effect also - there are nearby areas that I will never survey because they are too risky. Even in a vehicle, I would not want to risk a breakdown. For the areas that are unfriendly to pedestrian and bicycle, I have used video from a vehi