[OSM-talk] mapbook v0.02

2012-03-09 Thread Paul Norman
I have completed an overhaul to my mapbook program, making it easier to extend and adding new features. This program, available at https://github.com/pnorman/mapbook, will create a PDF with a title page, an index map showing the coverage of the book and what page covers what area, then individual

Re: [OSM-talk] Better integration with OSM from MapKnitter.org balloon maps

2012-03-09 Thread Jeffrey Warren
Wow, how extremely useful! Thank you, Andreas. I implemented the deep link and you can see it on the following map, which I had originally linked to (it's lower down along the right sidebar): http://mapknitter.org/map/view/mestia I'll probably style it more like a button so that people see it. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Inaccurate GPS location

2012-03-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > After reading a news article about the effect the current solar storm is > expected to have on GPS accuracy, I decided to see where my cell phone's GPS > thought I currently was.  Usually it is fairly accurate, but tonight it > thought I

Re: [OSM-talk] Inaccurate GPS location

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:38:17 John F. Eldredge wrote: > After reading a news article about the effect the current solar storm is > expected to have on GPS accuracy, I decided to see where my cell phone's > GPS thought I currently was. Usually it is fairly accurate, but tonight it > thought I was ab

[OSM-talk] Inaccurate GPS location

2012-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
After reading a news article about the effect the current solar storm is expected to have on GPS accuracy, I decided to see where my cell phone's GPS thought I currently was. Usually it is fairly accurate, but tonight it thought I was about 12 miles from my actual location. I tried three diffe

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Kai Krueger
Toby Murray-2 wrote > > A slightly better link might be: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rails_port > > This is what drives the core of OSM. Don't know that you have to be > overly good at rails development to set it up but it is certainly not > the simplest thing in the world. > If you ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Better integration with OSM from MapKnitter.org balloon maps

2012-03-09 Thread Andreas Trawoeger
Hi Jeff! I don't have much insight into the Potlatch2 code myself, but you can easily call Potlach2 with your own coordinates and TMS layers and I'm using that feature a lot. For example http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=48.3184&lon=14.3121&zoom=17&tileurl=http://tms3857.kartenwerkstatt.at/t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Stefan Keller
If you don't want to install things, take a look at following free web map making and sharig tools which I recently compiled: * GeoCommons (KML, Shapefile, CSV, JSON, Spatialite): http://geocommons.com * IndieMapper (Flash-based; KML, Shapefile, GPX): http://indiemapper.com/ * Crowdmap: http://www

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 09.03.2012 13:22, schrieb Andrew Ayre: I think the OSM site should set a clear example for correct usage, rather than implying it. +1 I really can encourage to add it if it is not there. Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstr

[OSM-talk] mapbox

2012-03-09 Thread Frans Thamura
hi all i just read the 4square blog, they use mapbox , rather using direct OSM.org anyone using mapbox or tile direct? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Viernes, 9 de Marzo de 2012 00:36:24 Richard Fairhurst escribió: > * 3500 tiles per second. Seriously. In Grant's words on Twitter: > "Massive jump in #OpenStreetMap traffic due 2 Apple news: t.co/nB4ffgYy > Fighting fires 2 keep systems up" I'm guessing my transparent map comparison is respons

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Viernes, 9 de Marzo de 2012 18:31:03 Stephane Goldstein escribió: > Maybe some day. I think it would be of great value for the GIS people to > have such tool at hands. Read a paper from the USGS titled "OpenStreetMap Collaborative Prototype". You'll see that the "GIS people" are already using

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Toby Murray
A slightly better link might be: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rails_port This is what drives the core of OSM. Don't know that you have to be overly good at rails development to set it up but it is certainly not the simplest thing in the world. Toby On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Stephan

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Stephane Goldstein
Thanks Jaime. I think this is still beyond my reach right now. I have no experience in development or coding. I was thinking that maybe there was some simpler solution. Maybe some day. I think it would be of great value for the GIS people to have such tool at hands. - Original Message --

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-09 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2012/3/9 Jaakko Helleranta.com : > Jaime wrote: "My guess is that, at least in my area, they are mixing OSM > geometries and names with -very poor- labels from other source." > > ... Which would mean that (mixing and matching data in an area) they should > be contributing back to OSM, eih? It ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Michal Migurski
This is awesome. I've reposted it here, after tracking down URLs for each of the stories and comments you mention: http://mike.teczno.com/notes/nice-problem.html -mike. On Mar 8, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > * 3500 tiles per second. Seriously. In Grant's words on Twitte

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-09 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Jaime wrote: "My guess is that, at least in my area, they are mixing OSM geometries and names with -very poor- labels from other source." ... Which would mean that (mixing and matching data in an area) they should be contributing back to OSM, eih? Would that poor old local name of Madrid be old

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-09 Thread Jaime Crespo
El día 8 de marzo de 2012 02:05, Iván Sánchez Ortega escribió: > On Jueves, 8 de Marzo de 2012 01:41:22 andrzej zaborowski escribió: >> Great :) -- Madrid is rendered with a name worthy of a map prank, >> although it would fit loc_name too. > > I'm guessing that's an old toponym, now deleted from

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Jaime Crespo
2012/3/9 Stephane Goldstein : > Hello. > > OSM has already been proved as the ultimate tool for collaborative mapping. > > Is there a way someone could use the same platform to work on private > mapping colaboration projects ? Check out and further help

[OSM-talk] OSM "software"

2012-03-09 Thread Stephane Goldstein
Hello. OSM has already been proved as the ultimate tool for collaborative mapping. Is there a way someone could use the same platform to work on private mapping colaboration projects ? To explain myself better: In the wiki case, you can download the MediaWiki software, install it on your se

[OSM-talk] Better integration with OSM from MapKnitter.org balloon maps

2012-03-09 Thread Jeffrey Warren
Hello - I was just enjoying the "add a TMS background" feature in Potlatch 2 (feel free to tell me to go to a different mailing list) and I created a brief guide to inserting your DIY balloon mapping aerial imagery (grassroots mapping/public laboratory style) as a background: http://publiclaborato

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Thanks for summarizing Richard. Really amazing to see the amount of response > this is generating. Only some of the Apple-specific blogs are catching on to > this, MacRumors among them: > http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/08/apple-using-ope

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Andrew Ayre wrote: I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving attribution. Probably because we disagree what constitutes an improvement. I consider the current "Copyright & License" link nicely integrated with the UI. The copyright page itself is well written and - as far as

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andy Robinson
From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] > Sent: 09 March 2012 14:17 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org? > > Andrew Ayre wrote: > > I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving > > attribution. > > I think the attribution

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Cartinus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/09/2012 03:13 PM, Andrew Ayre wrote: > I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving > attribution. Tom Hughes asked for a patch so just send it to > him... Maybe because there is nothing to improve? I know of no other website us

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Ayre wrote: > I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving > attribution. I think the attribution is great as it is. There's a whacking great big OSM logo and a big "Copyright & licence" link that leads to a more cogent and helpful explanation of the licence than anything fo

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Ayre
On 3/9/2012 1:59 PM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > I fiddled around with the code and it's no problem to just add it, but I'm > hesitant to submit a patch if the majority doesn't agree. I can't imagine why the majority wouldn't agree on improving attribution. Tom Hughes asked for a patch so just se

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: [ ... ] > I fiddled around with the code and it's no problem to just add it, but I'm > hesitant to submit a patch if the majority doesn't agree. > > Should I set up a poll? No. You should join the License Working Group. :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > The attribution situation hasn't changed since, like, forever. > > There is a big "Copyright & License" link next to the map, leading to a page > that contains details about the legal situation - including the license, a > link to the license t

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Floris Looijesteijn wrote: I just noticed that there no longer is proper attribution on a small website you might have heard of: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/ The attribution situation hasn't changed since, like, forever. There is a big "Copyright & License" link next to the map, leading t

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/03/12 12:22, Andrew Ayre wrote: I think the OSM site should set a clear example for correct usage, rather than implying it. Well I would argue that per CC-BY-SA the proposed wording is not correct anyway, and the only correct wording would involve listing each person that had contribut

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andrew Ayre
On 3/9/2012 10:42 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > We have always taken the position that the attribution is implicit when > you're visiting the web site - it's blatantly obvious that you're > looking at the OpenStreetMap data. I think the OSM site should set a clear example for correct usage, rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Andreas Labres
On 09.03.12 11:17, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > I just noticed that there no longer is proper attribution on a small > website you might have heard of: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/ +1 Even worse, the permalink is surrounded by an intransparent white rectangle. Bad. (I also don't like the g

Re: [OSM-talk] Smrender released into the wild

2012-03-09 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 14:01:17 Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: > Smrender is a rule-based renderer for OSM data. The rule set is very > flexible and it supports dynamic loading and linking... Smrender now uses GNU autotools. http://www.cypherpunk.at/2012/03/09/smrender-now-uses-gnu-autotools/

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Matt Williams
On 9 March 2012 10:50, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2012-03-09 11:36, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >> >> No. That page only talks about how you should attribute if you're >> using OSM yourself. >> >> I nowhere read the required "© OpenStreetMap contributors, CC BY-SA" >> for the map on osm.org. >> >> Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-09 11:36, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: No. That page only talks about how you should attribute if you're using OSM yourself. I nowhere read the required "© OpenStreetMap contributors, CC BY-SA" for the map on osm.org. Maybe my remark was a bit blunt, and indeed didn't recently change

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 9. März 2012 11:23 schrieb Tom Hughes : > What's more interesting is your claim that there is no longer proper > attribution, which suggests that you think something has changed. > > What exactly do you think we used to do that we no longer do? Maybe he is referring to the fact that the user n

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/03/12 10:36, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: I nowhere read the required "© OpenStreetMap contributors, CC BY-SA" for the map on osm.org. There is no specific text that is required. That is merely a suggested text. Indeed we add something very similar to that to the bottom of the page when

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
No. That page only talks about how you should attribute if you're using OSM yourself. I nowhere read the required "© OpenStreetMap contributors, CC BY-SA" for the map on osm.org. Maybe my remark was a bit blunt, and indeed didn't recently change but I still think it's not setting the right exampl

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:23, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 09/03/12 10:17, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > >> I just noticed that there no longer is proper attribution on a small >> website you might have heard of: >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/ >> >> Isn't this sending out the wrong message? > > > Th

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi! Floris, proper attribution in all it's glory details are here http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Attribution can be in many different forms. Not always it has to be overlay text. Have a nice day, Peter. Pk, 2012-03-09 10:23 +, Tom Hughes rakstīja: > On 09/03/12 10:17, Floris Looijes

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 09/03/12 10:17, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: I just noticed that there no longer is proper attribution on a small website you might have heard of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Isn't this sending out the wrong message? The fact that the site is called www.OPENSTREETMAP.org is the attributio

[OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Hey, I just noticed that there no longer is proper attribution on a small website you might have heard of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Isn't this sending out the wrong message? Greets, Floris Looijesteijn ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Nice problem to have

2012-03-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-03-09 08:50, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 03/09/12 01:10, Martijn van Exel wrote: http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/08/apple-using-openstreetmap-data-in-iphoto-for-ios/ - interesting to see the irrational Apple fanboy commentary.. It's a recurring motive. Company switches to OSM - users com