Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris wrote: >> >> >> I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the >> backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to >> celebrate Team GB successes in the cu

Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris wrote: > > > I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop > to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB > successes in the current Olympics: > > http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ > > 1. I

[OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-02 Thread Robert Norris
I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ 1. I think a certain Attribution clause is missing[1] 2. I think they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Eugene Sandulenko
On Thu Aug 2 20:22:16 BST 2012 Frederik Ramm wrote: > Yes, because as soon as you "invent" this status part, you will offend > someone, no matter whether you choose the Ukrainian or the Russian > version of the status part. This is the main misunderstanding here. We tried to explain it several time

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
On 03.08.2012 0:22, Cartinus wrote: > I read the whole mess on the mailinglists en de wiki. > > The point you are completely missing is that unless there is a conflict > the local community can't resolve, the DWG won't get involved at all. > If I will start making those changes, there will be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Cartinus
I read the whole mess on the mailinglists en de wiki. The point you are completely missing is that unless there is a conflict the local community can't resolve, the DWG won't get involved at all. If you had followed the whole thread, then you could have seen that e.g. The mappers in Brussels have

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
On 02.08.2012 23:10, Cartinus wrote: > > > On 08/02/2012 09:47 PM, iONiX wrote: >> On 02.08.2012 21:38, Lester Caine wrote: >>> [...] If I understand You correct - it is desirable to go through all exUSSR countries and change every object name tag to whatever is mentioned on s

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
Cartinus wrote: > > > On 08/02/2012 09:47 PM, iONiX wrote: > > On 02.08.2012 21:38, Lester Caine wrote: > >> [...] > >>> > >>> If I understand You correct - it is desirable to go through all > exUSSR > >>> countries and change every object name tag to whatever is > mentioned on > >>> signs? > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Cartinus
On 08/02/2012 09:47 PM, iONiX wrote: > On 02.08.2012 21:38, Lester Caine wrote: >> [...] >>> >>> If I understand You correct - it is desirable to go through all exUSSR >>> countries and change every object name tag to whatever is mentioned on >>> signs? >> >> If they are currently NOT showing wha

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
On 02.08.2012 21:38, Lester Caine wrote: > [...] >> >> If I understand You correct - it is desirable to go through all exUSSR >> countries and change every object name tag to whatever is mentioned on >> signs? > > If they are currently NOT showing what is on the sign then YES, and in > my book tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
On 02.08.2012 21:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [..] > >> We showed examples in forum, why it is not that simple to follow "truth >> on the ground" rule in ukraine. Here are some examples from me: > > Yes, it is not simple. The simplest solution would be to say that all > names in the Crimea shold be

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Lester Caine
iONiX wrote: iONiX wrote: >>What when street is renamed and you want to send a letter, or some poi >>is located there and have its official address with new name, but old >>signs are still installed (for months or years). Do You really still >>want to rely on those old signs on the street? > >M

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Cartinus
If your (or anybody elses) politicians are so dumb that they make rules for which they have no money to implement, then you should vote them out of office next time. If your postmen can't find an "old" address for streets where the signs have not changed, they should be looking for a new job. -

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02.08.2012 20:43, iONiX wrote: 1. Will be same decision made in other parts of the world, if similar problems will come up? It depends, but the "on the ground rule" is often the best available compromise. (Another possible compromise is to say that no "name" tags are allowed at all in

Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods

2012-08-02 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Thanks all for your responses. I decided to enable geotagging for my photos and use OsmTracker for tracking (1 sec interval). Then I load the gpx file and the photos into JOSM where I put the POIs into OSM. Yesterday I marked in a bit more than 200 POIs and today might bring in rougly the same amo

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
On 02.08.2012 20:57, Lester Caine wrote: > iONiX wrote: >> What when street is renamed and you want to send a letter, or some poi >> is located there and have its official address with new name, but old >> signs are still installed (for months or years). Do You really still >> want to rely on those

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread Lester Caine
iONiX wrote: What when street is renamed and you want to send a letter, or some poi is located there and have its official address with new name, but old signs are still installed (for months or years). Do You really still want to rely on those old signs on the street? Most definitely for the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-08-02 Thread iONiX
Hi, how of it comes, than none of responses in ukrainian forum (http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17533) were quoted here? Neither this discussion here were referenced by DWG in that thread. Where can I see discussion of DWG members to this issue? I am still waiting for answers to

[OSM-talk] Final results "lost mappers" task force

2012-08-02 Thread Simon Poole
As some may remember from mid-February 2012 to essentially up to the redaction bot started running, the LWG undertook to get in contact with largest remaining non-responders that hadn't accepted the new contributor terms. We worked through two lists of roughly 1000 contributors each. The first li