Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 19.08.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Glenn Powers : > > For the record, I deleted an abandoned railway that leads through a new > housing development, because it didn't make any sense to leave it there. > > Satellite images clearly show ground gradings indicating an abandoned > r

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
moltonel writes: > The existence of ohm is a strong aknowlegement that osm is only for > the present. Russ, you're an expert in old railroads, but think of > all the other old things you could be an expert of. If all the > niche experts When they show up, we can have a discussion. In the meant

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: > Also I have the impression that, contrary to what you're saying, at > least some proponents of abandoned railway mapping find it totally ok to > map an abandoned railway that "leads through" a modern day housing > development. "Abandoned"? No. Dismantled? Yes. Now, I mu

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
moltonel 3x Combo writes: > I do empathise with Russ being angered at his work being deleted > without discussion. Not any happier if it gets deleted after discussion either. I brought my data (I started mapping railways in 2004) to OSM because I thought that the community was friendly to abando

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
moltonel 3x Combo writes: > To me the distinguishing criteria between disused and abandoned is > wether the rails are still present or not. Indeed. disused means the rails are still there. Abandoned means that the rails are gone. Dismantled (or some people use razed) is when a section of the rai

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
moltonel 3x Combo writes: > The demolished: prefix only makes sense when there is something left > of the former feature, typically rubble (useful for example to alert > boattripers of the hazard). When there is nothing left in reality, > there should be nothing left in OSM. Question: should w

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Russ Nelson
Glenn Powers writes: > For the record, I deleted an abandoned railway that leads through a new > housing development, because it didn't make any sense to leave it there. > > Satellite images clearly show ground gradings indicating an abandoned > railway. IIRC, it was also featured in century-

[OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-19 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
For those that did not check on Mateusz Konieczny diary entries[1], postings to this mailing list and github discussions then the Proposed Great Colour Shift might come as a surprise if it is implemented. According to the github discussion there is an "overwhelming consensus" [2] on moving fro

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Glenn Powers
On 08/16/2015 03:11 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Also I have the impression that, contrary to what you're saying, at > least some proponents of abandoned railway mapping find it totally ok to > map an abandoned railway that "leads through" a modern day housing > development. For the record, I delet

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
On 19/08/15 01:36, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > Be carefull not to mix up database history and real-world history. > Database history keeps track of the mapping process, as geometry gets > refined, details get added, and blunders get reverted. World history > tracks what the world was like at a speci