[OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Michał Brzozowski
I watch what new users do, reviewing their work and I am kind of fed up with how rarely newbies respond to changeset comments and messages. Have you observed such low rate in your area? Is there anything we could do in order to increase it? I feel it's so futile to ever contact these hit-and-run ma

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

2015-11-14 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.11.2015 18:40, Daniel Koć napisał(a): W dniu 03.11.2015 13:17, Dave F. napisał(a): 2. Road widths https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS4l8ZKWUAA-566.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS4tfRDWUAA6AkN.png As can be seen, there's a problem with the new increased widths. At interchanges individua

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Gerd Petermann wrote: > I think that's quite okay presuming that many users don't speak english I forgot to mention. My operations with respect to newcomers are almost solely in Poland. So I write in Polish. > and another group simply doesn't like to be watched /

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread GerdP
Michał Brzozowski wrote > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Gerd Petermann > < > GPetermann_muenchen@ > > wrote: >> I think that's quite okay presuming that many users don't speak english > I forgot to mention. My operations with respect to newcomers are > almost solely in Poland. So I write in Po

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread tony wroblewski
From experience, I know that such responses are intimidating and put people off mapping. My girlfriend started mapping some areas when I showed her how to do it and immediately somebody sent her an email saying how she should be doing things because he doesn't map it that way (Neither way was offic

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 03:04:41PM +0100, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > I watch what new users do, reviewing their work and I am kind of fed > up with how rarely newbies respond to changeset comments and messages. > Have you observed such low rate in your area? > Is there anything we could do in

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 14 nov. 2015, om 18:04 heeft Michał Brzozowski het > volgende geschreven: > > > Recently I found out that simple "please fix" or "please respond" (if > edits need clarification) boosts chances for a reply or fixing by the > user. How about we make some tips/guidelines for communications w

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, tony wroblewski wrote: > From experience, I know that such responses are intimidating and put > people off mapping. My girlfriend started mapping some areas when I > showed her how to do it and immediately somebody sent her an email > saying how she should be doing

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Bryce Cogswell
> On Nov 14, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, tony wroblewski > wrote: > >> I think people need a playpen where they can try out ideas and map >> before contributing to the main map (Maybe there already is, I don't >> know). I think it should also

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 14 nov. 2015, om 20:11 heeft Michał Brzozowski het > volgende geschreven: > > Thanks. I use openstreetmap.pl/users - usually (if it isn't out of > sync), it can be faster - resultmaps update only hourly. It is also > connected to the #osm-pl IRC channel. That kind of detail is not relevan

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Marc Zoutendijk wrote: > A few months ago the Dutch community started sending out a welcome message > to every new mapper with some general info and pointers to useful websites > and wikis. > This helps a lot in making the new mappers feel more at home and make t

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > I like that concept. I try to invite new users are in the geographic area of > our meetup group. If I think they need a helpful hint I add it to the > welcome message. I'd really like to automate the process. Is there a way to > automate send

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Simon Poole
Am 14.11.2015 um 18:04 schrieb Michał Brzozowski: ... lots of stuff ... This is not a new complaint/moan. The major issue is the people that have made OSM one of/their major hobby (aka us) fretting about the fact that lots of other people just joined to fix something or test. They typically didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 14 nov. 2015, om 20:49 heeft Clifford Snow het > volgende geschreven: > > I like that concept. I try to invite new users are in the geographic area of > our meetup group. If I think they need a helpful hint I add it to the welcome > message. I'd really like to automate the process. Is th

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Gerd Petermann
I like the idea regarding a welcome message from the local community. My explanation for users who registered without mapping: They tried to map something, found the used editor too complicated, and stoped again being afraid to destroy something. So, I think a 1st welcome message with links to

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-14 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 14.11.2015 19:44, tony wroblewski napisał(a): I think people need a playpen where they can try out ideas and map before contributing to the main map (Maybe there already is, I don't know). I think it should also be a requirement that people add a I think this is the place for playing wi