Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/10/2018 04:21, Paul Johnson wrote: Only if the sender is sending from a server other than their normal mail server, something readily detectable in the headers.  Google seems to use the same strategy as I did running my own mail server for about 12 years before moving to gsuite, which is

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
El mar., 2 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 00:23, Paul Johnson (ba...@ursamundi.org) escribió: > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> On 01/10/2018 19:54, Richard wrote: >> >> > The messages go straight into a dedicated gmail inbox without any >> > filters. >> > As far as I know gm

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM Tom Hughes wrote: > On 01/10/2018 19:54, Richard wrote: > > > The messages go straight into a dedicated gmail inbox without any > > filters. > > As far as I know gmail will only ever reject messages that contain > > what looks to it like executable programs - attach

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Paul Johnson
It's not just that, but it's across a large number of gmail (or gsuite) users, also meeting a certain ratio of users who reported what they got as spam. On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM James wrote: > I get it too, it might be rejecting them because the mailing list is > sending too many emails to

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/10/2018 19:54, Richard wrote: The messages go straight into a dedicated gmail inbox without any filters. As far as I know gmail will only ever reject messages that contain what looks to it like executable programs - attached files (*.exe, *.com, *.bat) It also rejects email from a sender

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Richard
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 02:59:38PM -0400, James wrote: > I get it too, it might be rejecting them because the mailing list is > sending too many emails to too many gmail addresses(way to combat spam: > limit same messages to different recipients) hm.. receiving many Linux related maling lists and

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread SelfishSeahorse
I get them too. I've also remarked that i don't get messages from some specific addresses. By the way, when replying to a message on talk (but not on any other list i'm subscribed to), the email client wants to reply to the e-mail's sender instead of talk@openstreetmap.org. It would be helpful if

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-10-01 20:54:13, Richard wrote: Hi, from time to time I am getting messages like <> Any idea.. what could be the cause? Unfortunately I don't see any way to figure out which message did cause this. I notice the first message I did not receive was https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread john whelan
On gmail I get the same from time to time. Cheerio John On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, 2:56 pm Richard, wrote: > Hi, > > from time to time I am getting messages like > > < excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 30-Sep-2018. >> > > Any idea.. what could be the cause? Unfortunat

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread James
I get it too, it might be rejecting them because the mailing list is sending too many emails to too many gmail addresses(way to combat spam: limit same messages to different recipients) On Mon., Oct. 1, 2018, 2:56 p.m. Richard, wrote: > Hi, > > from time to time I am getting messages like > > <

[OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

2018-10-01 Thread Richard
Hi, from time to time I am getting messages like <> Any idea.. what could be the cause? Unfortunately I don't see any way to figure out which message did cause this. I notice the first message I did not receive was https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2018-September/081459.html but

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

2018-10-01 Thread John Whelan
Do we really need yet another tool to find errors in HOT mapping? Before the new version of task manager I did a lot of validation in HOT. One of the problems on the data quality side is new mappers just don't completely map a tile and mark it done for validation.  Which means finding their ne

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

2018-10-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, October 1, 2018 9:56 am, Nate Smith wrote: > > If you have some ideas on additional quality metrics we could add, that > would be great as this tool is just getting started. I would definitely > like to include more ways we can think about what quality data means > during field mapping. We

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

2018-10-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 01 October 2018, Nate Smith wrote: > Thanks for the comment and questions Frederik. Agreed that quality > and quantity isn’t exactly the same. And I hope that the UI in the > tool hasn’t communicated that this is just about statistics and > quantity - it is more than just a feature counte

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

2018-10-01 Thread Nate Smith
Thanks for the comment and questions Frederik. Agreed that quality and quantity isn’t exactly the same. And I hope that the UI in the tool hasn’t communicated that this is just about statistics and quantity - it is more than just a feature counter. We certainly could say it is a richness monitor,

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

2018-10-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On Mon, October 1, 2018 7:57 am, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > On 01.10.2018 03:28, Nate Smith wrote: >> Last week we released a new version >> of a data quality monitoring tool > > I would like to recommend that you don't use the term "quality > monitoring tool" for this since you're measuring quantity