Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-01-07 08:27, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 6 Jan 2020, 16:35 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: sent from a phone On 6. Jan 2020, at 07:29, Maarten Deen wrote: Baltic Sea to be the "Baltic Sea" or for South America to be "South America" - this is an example of English imperialism. This "imperia

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 Jan 2020, 16:35 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 6. Jan 2020, at 07:29, Maarten Deen wrote: >> >>> Baltic Sea to be the "Baltic Sea" or for South America to be "South >>> America" - this is an example of English imperialism. >>> >> >> This "imperialism" idea of yours i

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Mario Frasca
On 06/01/2020 09:45, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: but it's quite difficult to decide which tag to use in each region what about … as long as we're discussing relations … a relation could have a node with role `label:xx` where the xx is a language code.  it would specify where to put the correspond

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM: hover-Coordinate by easy click into clipboard?

2020-01-06 Thread Wayne Emerson, Jr. via talk
I don't know if JOSM can do that, but in the iD editor you can press Ctrl-Shift-M to open the Measurement box, then place a node where you need coordinates. Click on the node, then select the coordinate text in the Measurement box and press Ctrl-C. On 1/6/2020 8:39 PM, tshrub wrote: hi, in J

[OSM-talk] JOSM: hover-Coordinate by easy click into clipboard?

2020-01-06 Thread tshrub
hi, in JOSM's status bar the mouse position is constantly running as a coordinate. Is there any easy way to get it, may be by keyboard into the clipboard? I want to edit GPS data from, or better: add GPS-data to trackless photos - I want to place them like this with JOSM' sat-pictures. bella

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 6. Jan. 2020 um 18:39 Uhr schrieb marc marc < marc_marc_...@hotmail.com>: > Le 06.01.20 à 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > in OpenStreetMap we’re trying to represent the current state of things > > I agree with that. > > > English using it in international context as a fallback. >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread marc marc
@Martin > You mentioned the cities in Morocco > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/288704798 > The only difference is that the Baltic Sea involves a couple more languages. no the main difference is : Morocco local rules about name <> one mapper rule about the world talking and (trying to) building

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread marc marc
Le 06.01.20 à 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > in OpenStreetMap we’re trying to represent the current state of things I agree with that. > English using it in international context as a fallback. yes as a fallback, not as a rule "international -> name=name:en" but if a lake is in a multi-l

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Jan 2020, at 07:29, Maarten Deen wrote: > >> Baltic Sea to be the "Baltic Sea" or for South America to be "South >> America" - this is an example of English imperialism. > > This "imperialism" idea of yours is just your idea. It is not something that > is widely fel

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 Jan 2020, 14:35 by marc.ge...@gmail.com: > So isn't the only conclusion that you can make that pre-rendered tiles > fail as soon as one needs to serve a multi-language audience? > To be more specific - it fails in regions with multiple languages and once someone leaves her/his language area. >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> ... the osm.org styles base themselves on the “name” tag to determine the > default style? Or is this that the way the styles are currently defined do > not enable the definition of heuristics to pick the best “name:*” tag if the > “name” tag itself is absent? I really don’t know the styling p

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Martin Constantino–Bodin
Hi everyone ☺ OK, it seems that the discussions are going wild again in this new year. So let’s keep feelings aside and try to answer with arguments instead ☺ Thanks everyone who does that, you are too many to thank individually ☺ @Mario: I’ve seen a lot of people saying that we shouldn’t remo

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Marc Gemis
So isn't the only conclusion that you can make that pre-rendered tiles fail as soon as one needs to serve a multi-language audience? Wouldn't the best technical solution be vector tiles (or another technology) and let the end-user choose in which language the names are displayed? Removing the "nam

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Mario Frasca
Hi Tomek, and everybody. being this an English list, I'll write in English, I'm tempted to use Spanish, or Italian.  my written Latin is poor. I'm sorry to disappoint you as an Esperanto fan, but I understand Polish better than Esperanto. Should I "vote" on your proposal?  I consider this t