Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:14:03 -0600 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: But let's discuss: are address imports useful (I say yes, for geocoding and routing they're indispensable), necessary (I say yes, potential

Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?

2011-11-01 Thread Toby Murray
I noticed the Arkansas import[1] in Bentonville as I was driving through. When I went back and added a few things along the way it seemed to be of pretty good quality although I didn't look at it too closely. As wary as I am of imports, I do think addresses are one of the things that CAN actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tiles in Chrome

2011-10-21 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, I've seen weird behavior in Chrome too. It used to be very good about refreshing tiles a few months ago but then it seems like something changed. Although I thought dropping the cache was good enough to force mine to get fresh tiles. Don't know that I've tried recently. I just use Opera when

Re: [Talk-us] County borders vs. State borders

2011-10-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it wrote: I'll be pushing Michigan back for a bit and continue westwards of Iowa. FYI I've already relationalized the counties in most states west of Iowa. The first few I did I did not combine with the state boundaries though.

Re: [Talk-us] NE2 doing mass retaggings

2011-10-20 Thread Toby Murray
Well this may not be ideal but there were already some conflicts creeping in so I decided to pull local rank and revert since by tomorrow night there would probably be a lot more conflicts. Sorry for undoing what I'm sure was a good chunk of work but unilaterally retagging other peoples work on a

Re: [Talk-us] NE2 doing mass retaggings

2011-10-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I see I have some new enemies, and the old ones are coming back to slander me. The fact that you keep making new enemies might be something to stop and think about. And for the record, I'm not really an enemy... I do

Re: [Talk-us] NE2 doing mass retaggings

2011-10-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/2011 10:40 AM, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com  wrote: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2011-March/005466.html I might add

Re: [OSM-talk] 'wget'ing largish portion of planetOSM

2011-10-19 Thread Toby Murray
If you are needing that much data I would strongly recommend starting off with an extract of the whole country and then trim out what you need using osmosis. Extract providers can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet#Country_and_area_extracts And osmosis docs on trimming an

[Talk-us] NE2 doing mass retaggings

2011-10-19 Thread Toby Murray
So NE2 just did a bunch of work on Kansas highway relations. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/NE2/edits Some of it was ok but he also removed the name=* tag from the 60-something relations I have already done. I know that the name tag isn't really needed for some of these relations but it is a

[Talk-us] Big Baseball Project

2011-10-16 Thread Toby Murray
So I just noticed that this was never sent to talk-us. Some of you have probably already seen it but for those who haven't: http://opengeodata.org/big-baseball-project-2011 It is an easy thing for new users to do. I got someone to sign up with OSM to add some fields in the Kansas City area. And

Re: [OSM-talk] Internet cable map

2011-10-15 Thread Toby Murray
These do not appear to be cartographic maps. They are primarily network maps that happen to be displayed on a world map. Only the endpoints are known locations. Toby On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Pierre-Alain Dorange pdora...@mac.com wrote: TeleGeography has release a map of submarine cable

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Applications for Android

2011-10-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:10 AM, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/10 Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote: Next time just Google For It [tm] :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android Thank You very

[OSM-talk] Happy 9.5 millionth changeset!

2011-10-08 Thread Toby Murray
I just uploaded changeset #9499850 so I expect that within the next few minutes we will hit changeset number 9,500,000! Yay for round numbers! Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] FYI - user Justinb in western GA

2011-10-07 Thread Toby Murray
Some of his combinations seem to be mostly harmless except to tiger tags. For example I see at least one where he combined two ways that crossed a county line so the tiger:county tag is doubled up. But yeah several are definitely bad and end up with things like lanes=2;3;4 Wonder if this is

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Crossovers

2011-10-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: highway=service, access=no I haven't added any myself but when I have come across some that were in TIGER data (imported as residential or somesuch nonsense) this is how I have retagged them. Toby

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Toby Murray
I would put splitting cardinal directions out into their own tag on the same level as breaking them out on streets. I'm sure some people do it (in fact I seem to recall a discussion about that a few months ago?) but I don't plan on making it a priority for myself any time soon. The one address

Re: [Talk-us] California landuse import

2011-09-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I heard back from the user - this import is described at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2010-October/000673.html I'm following up on using smarter-sort.py for subsequent work, as well as using a separate

Re: [Talk-us] California landuse import

2011-09-21 Thread Toby Murray
/9365434 These changesets are all nodes. I assume the ways are coming in a subsequent changeset. This is pretty risky so I will keep an eye on this tomorrow. Toby On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Frederik's message on the imports mailing list reminded me... I

Re: [OSM-talk] Who's using the torrents?

2011-09-18 Thread Toby Murray
I used the torrent a few times last year and seeded until the next file came out each time. I haven't needed a planet file in a while now so I haven't used it recently. Each time I used it, it was blazingly fast and maxed out my 2 MB/sec downstream limit for most of the download. Toby On Thu,

Re: [OSM-talk] Map display with orange bounding box

2011-09-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Is there a utility to allow a user to draw a boundary box like this get a permalink for it?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?box=yesbbox=-2.59472%2C51.39784%2C-2.1%2C51.42825 You should be able to use the XAPI frontend:

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-14 Thread Toby Murray
linked all of my videos on the SOTM 2011 wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011 Enjoy! As for the parts that aren't good enough to be enjoyable... well... you should have come to SOTM in person! :) Toby On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like

2011-09-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Towns appear at zoom level 9 in Mapnik, which seems pretty decent to me.  There are tagged towns in SW Kansas that show up, but some villages probably need retagging to towns in the N and W.  The Place page

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like

2011-09-12 Thread Toby Murray
This might be partially a tagging issue but I think it affects rendering too. It would be nice to change the zoom level at which cities/towns are rendered in rural areas. I should not be able to get a map with no place names on it in western Kansas Toby On Sep 12, 2011 6:15 PM, Jeffrey Ollie

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-11 Thread Toby Murray
I went through last night and reworked the video names and descriptions on the recorded videos a bit. Some of them had default descriptions and such. I think I am going to set a 3G data usage record this month. :) Yay for unlimited plans. Toby On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Toby Murray

Re: [Talk-us] access=destination vs access=private

2011-09-11 Thread Toby Murray
Re: Kansas Every person riding a bicycle upon a roadway shall be granted all of the rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle ... Toby On Sep 9, 2011 10:00 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 23:55 -0400, Anthony wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
My laptop can't connect to usream for some reason today. They might be blocking it in the academic building we're in today. But I can still broadcast from my phone it seems... a little shaky but it works. Toby ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-09 Thread Toby Murray
So I brought a webcam to SOTM. I am broadcasting on ustream. Unfortunately my poor netbook doesn't have the CPU to do things very well so the video is kind of worthless but I hear the audio is good. And there are ads. But if you want to follow along... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/KSUToebee

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-09 Thread Toby Murray
AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I was hoping there would be streaming, or at least videos uploaded later. Thanks for doing this, please keep it up! -Josh On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: So I brought a webcam to SOTM. I am broadcasting on ustream

Re: [OSM-talk] cannot create database for osmosis 0.39

2011-09-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Hadmut Danisch had...@danisch.de wrote: But when using script/pgsnapshot_schema_0.6.sql instead, postgres rejects with error message psql:script/pgsnapshot_schema_0.6.sql:38: ERROR:  type hstore does not exist LINE 7: tags hstore ^

Re: [OSM-talk] Big mess- fight or flee?

2011-09-01 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Should I... a) Ask someone to investigate what happened and show me what tools to use to recover/restore deleted data, bearing in mind that the current data seems to be identical and would overlap restored

Re: [Talk-us] Planning to import speed limit data for Florida

2011-09-01 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/1/2011 1:19 AM, Toby Murray wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com  wrote: On 8/31/2011 9:57 PM, Dale Puch wrote: Anyways that is why I am interested in how you plan

Re: [Talk-us] Planning to import speed limit data for Florida

2011-09-01 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/1/2011 2:16 AM, Toby Murray wrote: http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/FL_maxspeed.osm.gz If you have trouble dealing with the extra spaces I can clean it up tomorrow. Bed time now. But it looks like it is just putting

Re: [Talk-us] Planning to import speed limit data for Florida

2011-08-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/31/2011 9:57 PM, Dale Puch wrote: Anyways that is why I am interested in how you plan to attack it. I haven't started, but I plan to convert to .osm using gpsbabel and then use the JOSM 'routes' plugin to color

[Talk-us] California landuse import

2011-08-25 Thread Toby Murray
Frederik's message on the imports mailing list reminded me... I was going to ask if anyone knows about the import performed in these two changesets in California: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9090477 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9091078 The result is clearly

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

2011-08-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Jason Straub strau...@yahoo.com wrote: As the person that just got done labelling each TX state highway, I'll chime in here with some comments. For the network tag, I think that the labelling should be (country : state network : network within the state :

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

2011-08-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Shared routes use semi-colons, like any other multi-use object. ref=CA 60;I 215 or network=US:CA;US:I ref=60;215 Difficult to

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

2011-08-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Henk Hoff toffeh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: And once we set our standard here in the US, how do we get it adopted world-wide? -

Re: [OSM-talk] Id stability

2011-07-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: It would definitely be valuable to have the identifiers be more persistent. I've been linking to some from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Keefe_Rail_Trail . I believe Richard F has made comments in the past

Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
The colors start at zoom 12. But if the area hasn't been viewed before it may take a while to render the overlay tiles, especially with it being hit by a bunch of us at the same time because of a link being shared on a large mailing list :) Toby On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Oleg

Re: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.

2011-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
One *BIG* note that needs to be put out there specifically for the US: User balrog-kun has explicitly declined the license. He ran a bot that expanded abbreviations in TIGER street names in the western US which means that virtually every named street west of the Mississippi shows up as tainted in

Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
You know what would be perfect? If this map had the data layer as seen on osm.org. Then you could easily look up the details of ways you want to investigate. Toby On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: The colors start at zoom 12. But if the area hasn't been

Re: [Talk-us] SR-96 partially gone

2011-07-16 Thread Toby Murray
Tiles are not being re-rendered after edits right now because of this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Power_Maintenance_Q3_2011 I'm not sure why it disappeared but if you look at the data, it is clearly there so I would wait until the current outage is over and the tile rendering has caught

Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS import: condition tag

2011-07-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: By that logic all tags should have dates.  Perhaps a fair point, but not where tagging is. On manually mapped data, the tag is known to be accurate as of the day it was added to the way and can be viewed in the way history.

Re: [OSM-talk] Hitting reset on talk-au

2011-07-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com wrote: And to echo Steve Bennet's comment, I am at a loss to find anything bad enough said by any Richard to justify this rant. I'm guessing it has to do with this?

Re: [OSM-talk] new zealand, australia

2011-07-06 Thread Toby Murray
Looking at the details it seems like the Australia being referred to is the continent, not the country. The New Zealand node has a is_in:continent=Australia tag and there is a place=continent node that nominatim is associating it with. So I guess this is correct but perhaps a little confusing in

Re: [Talk-us] Relation roles

2011-06-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/29/2011 3:28 PM, Josh Doe wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:    On 6/29/2011 2:49 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:        It also avoids the

Re: [OSM-talk] the map on osm.org - airstrips showing only at zoom 10

2011-06-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a fan of subtagging :) So I'd be more likely to do something like this: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=[major|minor|regional|airstrip] I could maybe see some confusion between minor and regional but it could work.

Re: [OSM-talk] Thank you sysadmins!

2011-06-23 Thread Toby Murray
I actually have a bone to pick. I was going to try and do some maintenance on a box here at home while the OSM servers were down in the hopes that my replication setup wouldn't get so far behind. But because they got things done quicker than the advertised 12 hours, I didn't have a chance to get

Re: [OSM-talk] bulk_upload.py consistently results in 500 server error

2011-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
2011/6/17 KKL Import kkl_imp...@hotmail.com: Can somebody please help? How come a perfectly legal osmChange, containing just a single way, is being rejected time and again? Has this been resolved yet? It almost sounds like a very rare condition I've seen admins discussing on IRC before where a

Re: [OSM-talk] the contributor terms - editing in josm/potlatch

2011-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i can still edit ok in potlatch 1 what's happening? I believe the next phase of the license change went into effect today. You must accept the terms in order to keep contributing. Potlatch 1 still working might be a

Re: [Talk-us] Categorizing Stores/Restaurants

2011-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
One of the first times I remember having a similar thought of how do I tag this? was with the office supply store Staples. I ended up using shop=office but doing a quick XAPI query now I see that out of the ~250 Staples shops mapped, the tags look like this like this: 6 office_supply 17

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing aerial imagery priorities

2011-06-17 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:  when all the nearmap-derived data is removed It seems like you missed an email a couple of days ago? Current NearMap derived data does not need to be removed from OSM during the license change.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Graham Stewart (GrahamS) gra...@dalmuti.net wrote: and that the source tag is certainly recommended, but not enforced. There is no such thing as an enforced tag in OSM. If you choose not to use a tag then that is your choice. Not using a source tag when basing

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 16/06/2011 18:00, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: You can also put this information in the change-set-comment. IMHO this is where this belongs to. AFAIK the source-tag is disputed and it is recommended to use the

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread Toby Murray
If only there were a way to indicate the *source* of a given object... This is obviously hindsight and doesn't help at this point in your situation but seriously... The source=* tag: use it. Toby On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly my own

Re: [Talk-us] Registration discounts for OSMF-US members?

2011-06-15 Thread Toby Murray
FYI the early bird sale ends in 5 hours :) Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[OSM-talk] License graphs broken

2011-06-09 Thread Toby Murray
So yeah... Looks like my router at home locked up again. Unfortunately I am just over half way through a week-long, 500 mile bicycle ride across the state of Kansas ( http://www.bak.org ) so I am unable to do anything about it. I'm barely online myself as wifi hotshots are pretty rare in rural

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

2011-05-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Nathan Mills nat...@nwacg.net wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 12:09:30 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm thinking the differences between motorways and trunks are minor. Trunks may have intersections, motorways don't. That's the simple way to state my opinion. It

Re: [OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-23 Thread Toby Murray
Do you know about the new jXAPI servers being run by both OSMF and Mapquest open? I haven't used them recently so I'm not sure if they are always overloaded as well or not. I have my own instance of this java based XAPI[1] service running on my server at home. For only serving up New Zealand I

Re: [OSM-talk] Default policy on automated edits

2011-05-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I was recently having a discussion about the role of automated imports and other automated edits to our dataset. I think we need a simple, concise position statement on the issue. This video concisely summarizes my

[Talk-us] Left over Arkansas parcel data (was [Imports] Importing Arkansas data)

2011-05-17 Thread Toby Murray
Just added talk-us since this affects the US map. To summarize for anyone new to this thread: Someone in Arkansas started importing massive amounts of parcel data against community advice and with technical deficiencies. The uploads were stopped and I was under the impression that they had all

[Talk-us] More bad NHD imports

2011-05-15 Thread Toby Murray
OK, seriously... I guess I just need to save myself some effort and start using a form letter for this. I was looking at more untagged/unconnected nodes in the area and found two more users who left a steaming pile of nodes in their wake: jumbanho:

Re: [Talk-us] More bad NHD imports

2011-05-15 Thread Toby Murray
jumbanho does indeed have nodes in Minnesota which brings his total in the area up to 10,569 And I discovered some new badness in Minnesota. Jeff Ollie with an impressive 60,290 empty nodes. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3845229 Most of the features uploaded by him seem to have

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: If you can catch the xapi when it's up, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi#Child_Element_Predicates might be easier. Unfortunately I don't think you can do both [not(tag)] and [not(way)], so you'll have to filter

[Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-01 Thread Toby Murray
Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another reason to hate imports. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5186568 I will contact this user and revert the changeset shortly. Dear importers: CHECK YOUR SHIT! kthx, Toby ___

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-01 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:  I didn't look very far, but http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5190419 also looks bad: old upload, all nodes, an area sampling shows a string of ghost nodes.  There are probably other bad imports there also. Arg! I was

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-01 Thread Toby Murray
So it gets worse. It seems that the failure of this changeset was probably noticed. Later the same day, another changeset[1] was created that uploaded duplicate nodes but also got at least some (but apparently not all) of the ways in there. Then some god damned bot came along and merged all the

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I see pictures of large banners in addition to the vests which no longer match the current style of the website! And I see absolutely no problem with this. The new logo is not at all substantially different from the old

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like my internet at home died this morning so wget replaced the images with zero byte files. I'll have to kick the modem. Turns out it was my router. Until a few months ago it had never crashed but lately it has

Re: [OSM-talk] PD tick box

2011-04-18 Thread Toby Murray
For what it's worth, I just legally signed my state tax return with nothing but a checkbox on a web form... Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:25 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/18 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: If you want to represent these important figures in statistics, can you at least use a common scale to avoid distorting peoples views of the figures?  Using

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-18 Thread Toby Murray
As a side question: how many users still need to either accept or decline? A lot. If you look at the two files that I am using to pull data from, you will see the users_agreed.txt file has a header in it explaining that there are 286,582 users that signed up before the new CT was put into place

[OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-16 Thread Toby Murray
Not sure if anyone else is already doing this but two days ago I thought it would be fun (maybe even useful) to graph the number of users who have accepted/declined the new license/CT in anticipation of the next phase going into effect on Sunday. I hacked together a quick dirty script to use as a

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.com wrote: Of course, it would be desirable to have consensus on the syntax of the conceptual-level tag, be it highway:network:us:fl=123, or highway:network=us:fl:123, or highway=fl:123, but that's a diversion from the crux of the

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah... consensus would be great but seems to be rather elusive. Here is a case in point. Another mapper has been tagging ways on Kansas highways as K-xx which is how people usually pronounce it. Street signs usually just have the number inside of the sunflower logo without any kind of lettering

Re: [OSM-talk] Export a compete set of metadata

2011-04-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Moinier, Pierre (UK) pierre.moin...@baesystems.com wrote: is anybody aware of a particular portion of motorway with exit lanes (or other roads) where the metadata will be accessible and would give information such as number of lanes, speed limits... I'm not sure

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011-03-31 Thread Toby Murray
It seems the problem persists. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.516lon=-69.943zoom=11layers=M We went from flooding of Aruba to draining the oceans. According to the HTTP headers, the current shoreline shapefile was last updated on the 26th of March which is 4 days after the Aruba shoreline

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:44 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Another thought is some sort of free service like panaramio where Joe Public can upload georeferenced photos, that can be used in conjunction with OSM. http://openstreetview.org/

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
In rural areas, the names on the sign tend to be towns that may be upwards of 10 miles away from the interstate. Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.0631lon=-96.2784zoom=13layers=M ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Andrew Cleveland evil.salt...@gmail.com wrote: Though that might be making things more complicated than they need to be. Yes. It is unreasonable to expect mappers to use special characters. That is just asking for inconsistencies in our data. IMHO, if it can't be

Re: [OSM-talk] City with completed housenumbering?

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
I just installed Keypad Mapper... and managed to find a bug :) Tapping the DEL key with nothing entered in results in an instantaneous force close event on my Galaxy S. But I will definitely use this in the future. Toby ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by ToeBee needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: User ToeBee has, in several changesets in February, aligned state borders to exact lat/long. The problem is that this is not how the borders are defined; instead they are based on work that the 19th century surveyors

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by Techlady needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
Thank you for the apology. I don't think that revert is going to happen though. Even if I agreed that this was the solution, it would be a nightmare. I did a lot of boundary work in that changeset involving splitting circular county border ways, creating relations, deleting superfluous nodes and

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by Techlady needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: That's nowhere near the extent of the damage. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?node=83787064 is supposed to be on the state line. On http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/topo/250k/txu-pclmaps-topo-us-moab-1962.jpg (a bit

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by Techlady needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
The western border has been aligned. I'm not in the business of making guarantees but in general I believe the error should be under 10 meters, compared to the TIGER shapefile. And yes, the shapefile has the border running a few meters to the north of the center of the Four Corners Monument,

Re: [Talk-us] semi-apology Re: Screw-up of borders

2011-03-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to apologize for specifically naming ToeBee and Techlady in subject lines, and any connotation that may have been attached to screwup. The former was my error at reading the tea leaves of node histories, and

Re: [OSM-talk] California is all wet

2011-03-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Daniel Sabo daniels...@gmail.com wrote: The new river rendering at z7 to z10 is a little extreme. e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.27lon=-123.61zoom=7layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.269lon=-123.611zoom=9layers=M Are the lines supposed

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011-03-21 Thread Toby Murray
The wiki indicates that natural=coastline should only be used on ways. You seem to have removed it from the ways and added it to the Aruba island border relation. Being in Kansas, I can't claim to be an expert on coastlines so I'm not sure if the wiki is accurate or not but that's all I can see.

Re: [Talk-us] Caltrans exit numbers

2011-03-20 Thread Toby Murray
For what it's worth, I did something similar here in Kansas. The Department of Transportation didn't have any obvious notices about copyright on the website so I sent them an email and asked. They replied and said that all the maps published on their website are public domain. So I added exit

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011-03-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I looked it up again, and I was partly wrong.  Turns out only five states disallow bicycles statewide on freeways:  Ohio, Minnesota, Maine, Indiana, Hawaii and Georgia.  The rest may allow it and post such restrictions at

[OSM-talk] Boundary editing (was Zero tolerance on imports)

2011-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
I have been thinking about this lately as well. In particular city/county boundaries. I realize this is specific to the US but the way a lot of our boundaries were imported from TIGER data makes them very prone to well meaning but ultimately bad edits by mappers. Basically, there is ALWAYS a node

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary editing (was Zero tolerance on imports)

2011-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: These filters would not solve the problem. If boundaries are filtered and not displayed, moving a way with a common node leads to the same error - but as the boundary is not displayed, it's even harder to recognize

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary editing (was Zero tolerance on imports)

2011-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Perhaps the answer is to remove some of the spurious nodes which were automatically added, when they are at the intersection of two straight lines (in other words, when removing the node would not change the path of any ways

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
I'm really not sure why this is being debated so hotly but here is a site that sums things up nicely: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?doc_id=2616 Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)

2011-03-04 Thread Toby Murray
I think the recent McDonald's changeset may need reverting or at least additional editing: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454383 It seems whoever did this did an XAPI query for all objects named McDonalds then did CTRL-A and added/replaced the name with McDonald's A simple name

Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)

2011-03-04 Thread Toby Murray
Talking about it on IRC, someone noticed that the same user did a similar thing with WalMart - Walmart which also resulted in the same error. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7454666 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)

2011-03-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: User says sorry, has reverted some things himself and asked me to revert the rest which I'm doing right now. Great! Glad the problem has been corrected quickly. Toby ___ talk

Re: [Talk-us] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011-03-04 Thread Toby Murray
*Like* The bicycle router picks almost the exact route I take to work when I tell it to avoid hills. One thing I've noticed is that starting and ending positions are kind of weird when they involve a building polygon. I'm guessing buildings are reduced to a centroid point in the routing engine

Re: [OSM-talk] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-03 Thread Toby Murray
Is there any particular source or maybe source:addr tag being used when mapping things based on this data? Out of the two nodes in my city, one was spot on - maybe 5 feet from the front door of the fraternity house that it belongs to. And it hasn't been mapped yet so I guess I should get on that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Spain needs OSM love

2011-02-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Steve Doerr steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 13/02/2011 23:36, Oscar Orbe wrote: now you finally have somethin g to do in your spare time.you can legally use this WMS service: http://www.idee.es/wms/pnoa/pnoa? with the tags: source=PNOA

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