Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread Albertas Agejevas
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 01:12:16AM +0200, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > Really, I am not worried about data integration, but getting data. It > does not bother me that other people cannot just take my work and use > it under a different license. My purpose in creating a map is just > tha

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 30 August 2010 17:24, Albertas Agejevas wrote: > > Want an example of a use case DB integration? Consider flight > > simulators. It would be good to have scenery generated by combining > > data from OSM with data with satellite photos, mod

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Kaiser
Maarten Deen schrieb: On 29-8-2010 19:21, Rob Myers wrote: It's basically the same as copyright assignment. Which can work well for projects of non-profit foundations. Copyright assignment is not signing a blank sheet of paper. No, but it is signing a paper that states exactly which informat

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Kaiser
John Smith schrieb: On 30 August 2010 20:03, Rob Myers wrote: The majority (> 50%) of GPL projects are now GPL 3. Which is hardly an argument against allowing relicencing. There is a little bit of a difference between changing versions that are merely an extension of the existing license, th

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Francis Davey
On 1 September 2010 14:42, Robert Kaiser wrote: > Francis Davey schrieb: >> >> Agreeing with the person you assign to that they will only use the >> copyright in certain ways won't protect you against a subsequent >> assignee of the copyright (eg OSMF assigns to XXX Ltd), subject to >> certain exc

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/01/2010 03:05 PM, Francis Davey wrote: Bear in mind that OSMF may cease to exist and its assets be transferred to someone else who you may trust less. I'm not saying it will happen or is even likely to happen, but I'm afraid as a lawyer I'm inclined to be cautious about the far future. Cop

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Albertas Agejevas wrote: > But FlightGear, for instance, currently uses "cooked" scenery files, > distributing OSM data separately is not an option.  So it is not > included at all. (I am not associated with FlightGear). would it not be possible to create a separ

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-09-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:52 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Also I don't see how CC-By-SA 3.0 explicitly does not apply to > databases more than 2.0.  It explicitly applies to things like maps > however (possibly this only means maps as images though) Well, it explicitly applies to "a compilation