Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you instead give the customer a heavily DRMed and encrypted version of your data, together with some decryption/processing software and with an OSM data file, and make it so that the PDF is generated on the customer's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Rob Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BY-SA 2.0 section 3.d allows you to distribute copies or phonorecords of, display publicly, perform publicly, and perform publicly by means of a digital audio transmission Derivative Works

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nic Roets wrote: Unless local law explicitly allows you to create derivative works for your own use. You don't need local law; CC-BY-SA section 3 b. says that you are allowed to *create* derivative works in any case, and then goes on with restrictions (section 4) about distributing and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
IANAL, TINLA. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My example above did *not* contain distribution of any OSM-derived work. The items that were distributed were (a) proprietary software, (b) proprietary data, and (c) unaltered OSM data. (c) is distribution

[OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, say you have a super-secret database with property prices that you only want to give to paying customers. Say you want to offer your customers to combine this with OpenStreetMap data, and ultimately make a PDF paper that has some coloured maps in it. By the current license, if you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Nic Roets
In the case where the super-secret database owner does not encourage you to use OSM-ng license data, there is nothing the license can do. The super-secret database owner can simply argue that his software was written for OSM/PD or OSM/CC-by-SA. Another way frustrate SA will be to reduce the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Circumnavigating Share-Alike through software / now and future

2008-10-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Rob Myers wrote: My example above did *not* contain distribution of any OSM-derived work. The items that were distributed were (a) proprietary software, (b) proprietary data, and (c) unaltered OSM data. (c) is distribution of the original work and so is still covered by the licence,