Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-10 Thread Ulf Möller
Am 02.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Valent Turkovic: Here is his answer: Those countries have their own geogrphical or geodesist institutes. So: the VGI is selling those OLD prints and they have still an copyright on reproduction of those papers, BUT NOT THE CONTAINED DATA !!! The fact that the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-10 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Ulf Möller o...@ulfm.de wrote: Am 02.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Valent Turkovic: I agree that it is a grey zone, but who will say that its illegal? OSM doesn't accept data from grey zones It'll be interesting to see how the ODbL switchover takes place, then.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-07 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 08:21:12 +0200, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Just an observation : These maps look just like if not identical to the russian topographical maps. mike Are russian topographical maps

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Barabanov
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: that is another contentious issue, they are defactor public domain IMHO. mike AFAIK, not in Russia. ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-04 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Just an observation : These maps look just like if not identical to the russian topographical maps. mike On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Matija Nalis mnalis-n...@voyager.hr wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 09:41:00 +0100, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 October 2010 23:29,  

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/03/2010 04:31 AM, John Smith wrote: None of those examples applies since it was a question about copyright ownership. I don't see why we should treat a nation state's laws about copyright any different than a nation state's idiosyncratic laws about maps or surveying. If you are in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-03 Thread Francis Davey
On 2 October 2010 23:29, ed...@billiau.net wrote: I think that the argument is not that. The argument is really 'Is the Serbian government the legal successor of the Yugoslav government in Serbian territories?' Would an international court give the rights to the Serbian government? I think

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-03 Thread Matija Nalis
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:48:39 +0200, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 10/02/2010 03:43 PM, Ed Avis wrote: This is pretty clear, then: OSM also needs to be usable on Serbian territory, so it can't use the maps. Right... and OSM needs to be usable in India too, so it must show

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-03 Thread Matija Nalis
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 09:41:00 +0100, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 October 2010 23:29, ed...@billiau.net wrote: The argument is really 'Is the Serbian government the legal successor of the Yugoslav government in Serbian territories?' If (say) Serbia were to use OSMF or an OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:02:16 +, Ed Avis wrote: Or does srpskicrv mean that the mapping agency of Serbia is the only entity that claims copyright, and further that it has released the maps to the public domain? Here is his answer: Okay, even if I dont have time (this is the