Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:01:23PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > One problem with the wiki is that you can't find current stuff because > of all the old stuff in there. Deleting helps. having the worst search engine of the whole internet isn't a good reason to delete old content. Its about time to

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On 21.04.19 07:44, Yves wrote: > Is there a way to decrease the rank of some pages in the search results > in MediaWiki? The possibility of increasing/decreasing the priority of certain search results based on templates is being discussed at the moment as part of this topic:

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Is there a way to decrease the rank of some pages in the search results in MediaWiki? Yves ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Hola, On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:01:23PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > One problem with the wiki is that you can't find current stuff because > of all the old stuff in there. Deleting helps. Marking them as obsolete > doesn't. And moving them to a different namespace is even worse, because > it

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Apr 20, 2019, 10:27 AM by joc...@remote.org: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 10:02:34AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> What you expect to find by searching for "GPS"? The problem >> is not that there are searches that will return many archive pages >> (I guess that "rejected" will get plenty

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

sent from a phone > On 20. Apr 2019, at 09:10, Jochen Topf wrote: > > Go to wiki.osm.org. Type "GPS" into the search field and look at the > suggestions: what would be “good” hits depends on the searcher’s intentions but can only be guessed from the search query alone, it is normal you get

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On 20.04.19 09:24, Jochen Topf wrote: > So as always you have to look at each case. If a page contains content > that is still useful for our current world, keep it. But if something is > merely interesting for historical reasons then it can be deleted. And > yes, there is a gray area there, but

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

sent from a phone > On 20. Apr 2019, at 09:24, Jochen Topf wrote: > > I still think that we should not be overly cautious. We should delete > things when in doubt. Otherwise we'll never get the wiki to a manageable > level. what does this mean practically, who is “we”? Every single wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On 20/04/19 17:24, Jochen Topf wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:02:48PM +0200, Michael Reichert wrote: there is currently a voting on a Deletion Policy [1] for the OSM wiki. The policy was drafted because we had two incidents last year when someone tried to delete a large number of old and

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 10:02:34AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > What you expect to find by searching for "GPS"? The problem > is not that there are searches that will return many archive pages > (I guess that "rejected" will get plenty of failed proposals), but > that someone is searching for

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Apr 20, 2019, 9:10 AM by joc...@remote.org: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:07:45PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> Apr 19, 2019, 11:01 PM by >> joc...@remote.org >> : >> >> > One problem with the wiki is that you can't find current stuff because >> > of all the old

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:07:45PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Apr 19, 2019, 11:01 PM by joc...@remote.org: > > > One problem with the wiki is that you can't find current stuff because > > of all the old stuff in there. Deleting helps. Marking them as obsolete > > doesn't. > > > Can you

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:02:48PM +0200, Michael Reichert wrote: > there is currently a voting on a Deletion Policy [1] for the OSM wiki. > The policy was drafted because we had two incidents last year when > someone tried to delete a large number of old and orphaned tagging > proposals in draft

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Apr 19, 2019, 11:01 PM by joc...@remote.org: > One problem with the wiki is that you can't find current stuff because > of all the old stuff in there. Deleting helps. Marking them as obsolete > doesn't. > Can you give example of situation where this is a problem? With pages properly marked as

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

to revive deleted pages from the mediawiki software. Jochen On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:02:48PM +0200, Michael Reichert wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 22:02:48 +0200 > From: Michael Reichert > To: OSM talk mailing list > Subject: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for

[OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

Hi, there is currently a voting on a Deletion Policy [1] for the OSM wiki. The policy was drafted because we had two incidents last year when someone tried to delete a large number of old and orphaned tagging proposals in draft state. He claimed that these pages might confuse users looking for a