Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-16 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/15 Stefan de Konink : > As subject. > > Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use > vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? > > I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. > > Where is that CC madness you are talking about? As far as I

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm : >> Even commercial companies aren't doing PD, they are allowing all uses >> except commercial uses. > > So if a charity employs a freelance driver, the driver, being commercial, is > not allowed to use the map, whereas the charity employee sitting next to him > can? Great,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: > 2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm : >> Hi, >> >> Stefan de Konink wrote: >>> It seems that commercial companies do get the point... >> Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike >> hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and has >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/15 Stefan de Konink : > Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use > vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? What's the particular need for this? I might agree but I don't see off the top of my head any problems anyone could have to comply with

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm : > Hi, > > Stefan de Konink wrote: >> It seems that commercial companies do get the point... > > Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike > hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and has > *not* agreed to a clause that

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: > It seems that commercial companies do get the point... Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and has *not* agreed to a clause that says the data is license-free for cr

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 15-01-10 22:26, Claudius schreef: > "We" can't, because the idea of a license is that it applies to anyone > in any situation, but... Nullum ius sine actione / Wo kein Kläger, da > kein Richter / There is no judge, without a complainant So maybe anyone that as objectives to going PD for humanit

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Claudius
"We" can't, because the idea of a license is that it applies to anyone in any situation, but... Nullum ius sine actione / Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter / There is no judge, without a complainant Claudius Am 15.01.2010 22:04, Stefan de Konink: > As subject. > > Can we just grant anyone that wa

[OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http