Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-10-08 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Maurizio, We did discuss CDLA at the last meeting, and are still considering what communications to put out about it. But for your specific situation of whether CDLA Permissive would be a good choice for Italian public administration officials/agencies, it could work, but I am not sure that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-10-05 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 7:34 PM Kathleen Lu wrote: > > WOF aside, we can put it on our agenda to discuss whether the CDLA-permissive > license is compatible with ODbL (note that there is also a CDLA-sharealike, > which is not compatible). > I've started to see it mentioned in other circles as we

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-23 Thread Rory McCann
On 22/08/18 20:06, Kathleen Lu wrote: (Best I know from various rumors is that various big companies wanted a LF-blessed open data license and they had things they did not like about ODbL.) AFAIK the Linux Foundation only has corporate members, and has a board which only (big) private companies

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Simon Poole
Naturally OSM has a wider remit overall, but it is completely clear that mapzen was trying to replace OSM as the go to source for global place (and POIs) locations and names. We are not perfect and there are things that we could do better to improve our competitive position, in particular mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Bryan Housel
Hmm - I’ve always felt Who’s on First was more of a Wikidata competitor than anything. It contains historical names.. I don’t see it as really having the same mission as OSM at all. > On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > WOF as a OSM compeitor. > > Am 22.08.2018 um 20:06 sch

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
Ah, but wouldn't the alternative be for OSM to be under the LF umbrella/decrees, and we couldn't have that, you and I would be out of a job, Simon ;) On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:08 PM Simon Poole wrote: > WOF as a OSM compeitor. > > Am 22.08.2018 um 20:06 schrieb Kathleen Lu: > > > > PS: long diat

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
> See > https://github.com/whosonfirst/whosonfirst-sources/blob/master/sources/README.md > for a long list of sources , inlcuding lots of CC BY (including CC BY > 4.0). BTW about 10s in to my inspection I found a claim of a CC0 licence > for something that is clearly not CC0 licensed. Thanks! I fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Simon Poole
WOF as a OSM compeitor. Am 22.08.2018 um 20:06 schrieb Kathleen Lu: > > > PS: long diatribe on why on earth the linux foundation is > supporting an > > OSM competitor not included. > > mmm... this is not good. > Do you know the reasons? > > > Simon - did you mean an OSM compet

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
> > PS: long diatribe on why on earth the linux foundation is supporting an > > OSM competitor not included. > > mmm... this is not good. > Do you know the reasons? > Simon - did you mean an OSM competitor or an ODbL competitor? (Best I know from various rumors is that various big companies wante

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Simon Poole
Am 22.08.2018 um 19:17 schrieb Simon Poole: > .. but I > wouldn't be surprised if they still had CC BY sources, which as we all > know are not suitable for use in OSM . See https://github.com/whosonfirst/whosonfirst-sources/blob/master/sources/README.md for a long list of sources , inlcuding

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
thanks for the answer > PS: long diatribe on why on earth the linux foundation is supporting an > OSM competitor not included. mmm... this is not good. Do you know the reasons? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 7:35 PM Kathleen Lu wrote: > > WOF aside, we can put it on our agenda to discuss whether the CDLA-permissive > license is compatible with ODbL (note that there is also a CDLA-sharealike, > which is not compatible). > I've started to see it mentioned in other circles as we

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Kathleen Lu
WOF aside, we can put it on our agenda to discuss whether the CDLA-permissive license is compatible with ODbL (note that there is also a CDLA-sharealike, which is not compatible). I've started to see it mentioned in other circles as well. -Kathleen On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:19 PM Simon Poole wrot

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Simon Poole
Hi Maurizio If the context is actually using data from whosonfirst, I don't believe that this is actually a sensible question. Any data source used by wof that actually has a licence that is suitable for use in OSM could be used directly without the added complication of the linux foundations lice

[OSM-talk] Community Data License Agreement – Permissive and ODbL?

2018-08-22 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Today I became aware of this open data license created by the Linux Foundation https://cdla.io/permissive-1-0/ In my point of view this license appears very pragmatic. I read the license text, the FAQs and this nice blog post of the project Who's On First https://whosonfirst.org/blog/2018/08/21/li