Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Michal Migurski
On Dec 22, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 22/12/11 16:14, Michal Migurski wrote: > >> +1 on Frederick's suggestion, with the caveat that it should be possible to >> override the Accept request header with a "?type=pbf" argument or similar. > > Why on earth are we still bikeshedding th

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Ian
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:48:19 AM UTC-6, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 22/12/11 16:14, Michal Migurski wrote: > > > +1 on Frederick's suggestion, with the caveat that it should be possible > to override the Accept request header with a "?type=pbf" argument or > similar. > > Why on earth are we

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Tom Hughes
On 22/12/11 16:14, Michal Migurski wrote: +1 on Frederick's suggestion, with the caveat that it should be possible to override the Accept request header with a "?type=pbf" argument or similar. Why on earth are we still bikeshedding this? It's not rocket science to add extra response formats

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Michal Migurski
PBF is also a more efficient file structure to read data from than compressed XML. -mike. On Dec 22, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > What I haven't seen to yet, is a justification for even contemplating this. > Is download bandwidth to editing clients even remotely an issue (even in

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Simon Poole
What I haven't seen to yet, is a justification for even contemplating this. Is download bandwidth to editing clients even remotely an issue (even in not so well developed countries)? Simon Am 22.12.2011 17:14, schrieb Michal Migurski: +1 on Frederick's suggestion, with the caveat that it sh

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Michal Migurski
+1 on Frederick's suggestion, with the caveat that it should be possible to override the Accept request header with a "?type=pbf" argument or similar. -mike. On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > I like the idea Frederick mentioned, to use standard http techniques for that. > Tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Peter Wendorff
I like the idea Frederick mentioned, to use standard http techniques for that. That would allow to support different compression algorithms on the server side, while server and client/editor would be able to decide together about the format used. regards Peter Am 22.12.2011 12:39, schrieb Mik

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Mike Dupont
of course, there is not anything there. api.openstreetmap.org/pbf/ is just my suggestion of what we could use instead of >> api.openstreetmap.org/ mike On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Mike  Dupont > wrote: >> you could also use a differen

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-22 Thread Parveen Arora
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: > you could also use a different base user or api/pfb or something. > api.openstreetmap.org/pbf/ File not Found at this link. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: m...@parveenarora.in ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Thread Mike Dupont
you could also use a different base user or api/pfb or something. api.openstreetmap.org/pbf/ On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:52 AM, john whelan wrote: > So continuing idle thoughts, two servers, the first set up to handle PFB > only, looks at its own local cached database which would be tiled in PFB >

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Thread john whelan
So continuing idle thoughts, two servers, the first set up to handle PFB only, looks at its own local cached database which would be tiled in PFB format with a tag to say either dirty or clean. If clean it would serve up the data as pre-compressed PBF tiles if dirty it would pass through the reque

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/21/2011 07:09 PM, john whelan wrote: I think it could still return any edits or additions in OSM format but I think more bandwidth is consumed downloading than adding a couple of street names in an upload. It could potentially be done via standard HTTP format negotiation, i.e. clien

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Thread Mike Dupont
I think that is a great idea! is that not why google developed PBF so you can use it for streaming? mike On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:09 PM, john whelan wrote: > Since JOSM can now read PBF files could JOSM request the area of the map to > be downloaded to be in PBF format? > > It would lower the ba

[OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Thread john whelan
Since JOSM can now read PBF files could JOSM request the area of the map to be downloaded to be in PBF format? It would lower the bandwidth requirements. I think it could still return any edits or additions in OSM format but I think more bandwidth is consumed downloading than adding a couple of s