[OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, this is an offspring from the discussion about whether or not we are well advised to follow Wikimedia's example of requiring the disclosure of paid contributions. The discussion has been led here on talk and on osmf-talk. A statement by Emilie Laffray on osmf-talk best summarizes the

Re: [OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 19 June 2014, Frederik Ramm wrote: Ultimately, map data is pretty much fact and whether it exists or not is a binary statement. [...] This is IMO what mapping should aim at, as outlined by the verifiability rule - practical mapping and actual data is however often quite far away

Re: [OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread Johan C
On Thursday 19 June 2014, Frederik Ramm wrote: The discussion has been led here on talk and on osmf-talk. A statement by Emilie Laffray on osmf-talk best summarizes the idea: Ultimately, map data is pretty much fact and whether it exists or not is a binary statement. Now, could someone slip

Re: [OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread Pierre Béland
by the Map tools they are using. If they cannot see community related POI's, it wont convince them to add these.     Pierre De : Johan C osm...@gmail.com À : Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 juin 2014 15h22 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Just

Re: [OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Mappers are surely influenced by the Map tools they are using. If they cannot see community related POI's, it wont convince them to add these. This is why I was a fan of the Tiles@Home information overload,

Re: [OSM-talk] Just facts?

2014-06-19 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
You cite a lot of good examples of OSM data that are not pure binary facts, and I could think of a few more. But I'm not sure what the intent of this demonstration is. Open the eyes of the OSM is pure facts crowd ? Debate whether this is a trait of OSM we want to minimise ? Figure out ways to spot