Simon Ward simon at bleah.co.uk writes:
Are you responding to my mail, or one earlier in the thread? I stated
that everything should be reverted to before each incompatible change.
I wanted to make the general point that while technically we can devise rules
for deciding what changes are
You have discussed some elaborate plans about what data from a non-relicensing
contributor would have to be deleted and what would have to be kept.
In the worst case, in the event of a dispute, do you really fancy trying to
convince a court of law that the elaborate heuristics you applied are
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
You have discussed some elaborate plans about what data from a
non-relicensing
contributor would have to be deleted and what would have to be kept.
In the worst case, in the event of a dispute, do you really fancy trying to
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Ed Avis wrote:
The only sound rule that can be sure to stand up in court is to
delete all data from the contributors who didn't give explicit
permission, and all data that depends on it. Period.
I agree that the only legal sound way to do it is by removing all
2009/3/4 80n 80n...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
You have discussed some elaborate plans about what data from a
non-relicensing
contributor would have to be deleted and what would have to be kept.
In the worst case, in the event of a dispute,
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.ukwrote:
2009/3/4 80n 80n...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
You have discussed some elaborate plans about what data from a
non-relicensing
contributor would have to be
Dave Stubbs wrote:
But don't kid yourselves it's a simple A or B choice.
Absolutely.
Steve actually answers this in his (very good IMO) Licence to kill post.
You can theoretically work out a complicated Boolean system of is this
derived from an ODbL refusenik's work?. You can read every bit of
Hi,
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
What really makes the difference, [...]
is intent. Intent, and acting in good faith at all times.
Could we perhaps shred all this legalese then, be done with the license
(which is, in effect, an attempt at codifying things in a manner you and
Steve have just
Richard Fairhurst richard at systemed.net writes:
We don't actually have a clean dataset. Nowhere near.
The reason we haven't been sued is exactly the same. Intent and good faith.
You are right. So what is the way of dealing with a relicensing that preserves
the intent of the contributors and
Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com writes:
Suppose I split a way into two parts. The second part now gets uploaded
as a completely new object, with nothing in its history pointing
towards its origin.
Although the way is new, don't the nodes along it keep their identity?
Or another example: I can
Hi!
Frederik Ramm wrote:
[..]
Could we perhaps shred all this legalese then [..]
and instead write an one-page statement of
intent that says how we'd like our data to be used and how not, and
that's it?
I don't want to sound stupid or offensive, but - sarcastic or whatever
- I absolutely
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 08:19, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com writes:
Suppose I split a way into two parts. The second part now gets uploaded
as a completely new object, with nothing in its history pointing
towards its origin.
Although the way is new, don't the
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:18:48AM +, Ed Avis wrote:
You have discussed some elaborate plans about what data from a non-relicensing
contributor would have to be deleted and what would have to be kept.
Are you responding to my mail, or one earlier in the thread? I stated
that everything
OK, so lets assume that some data would have to be deleted (hopefully
not lot of them, otherwise it would probably kill the project and
spawn some forks with complete cc-by-sa data). Where there is the
exact line between deleted and kept data is on another debate, but I
wonder the way how the data
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