Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-04-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> Evidently yes, I went there after all and this is a blog posting about >> some of the progress we've been making: >> >> http://openstreetmap.org/user/%C3%86var%20Arnfj%C3%B6r%C3%B0%20Bjarmason/diar

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-04-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Evidently yes, I went there after all and this is a blog posting about > some of the progress we've been making: > http://openstreetmap.org/user/%C3%86var%20Arnfj%C3%B6r%C3%B0%20Bjarmason/diary/5800 Comments on that blog entry: 1. MapOf is t...@h only but cou

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-04-03 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> Anyway, there's a MediaWiki developer meetup in Berlin next month > > [...] > >> But it would be very cool if someone that *did* know something about >> the OSM platform were to go and talk to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-19 Thread Jens Frank
2009/3/20 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > wrote: > > * It would have to work with the static dumps ( > http://static.wikipedia.org/) > > Does this script use the rendered tiles on the tileserver: > > > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/bbox/?W=

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-19 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > * It would have to work with the static dumps (http://static.wikipedia.org/) Presumably this can work just as timelines do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_of_the_Big_Bang http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/ti

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-13 Thread MP
>> Right now you can get a static dump + image dump and produce a fully >> working copy of a Wikimedia wiki. If all the maps relied on map tiles >> hosted somewhere else that would break a lot of things for the static >> dump content wise. > > I would have to learn more about how these static dumps

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-11 Thread Lars Aronsson
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > Now that is a special requirement!  Could you generate static HTML > > that uses and to line up some static PNG tiles in a > > static HTML page?  Would this also solve the problem for browsers > > without JavaScript? > > Right now you can get a static dump + i

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Anyway, there's a MediaWiki developer meetup in Berlin next month [...] > But it would be very cool if someone that *did* know something about > the OSM platform were to go and talk to the people involved there > about getting OSM on Wikipedia. There will b

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-10 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > >> Just installing an extension on Wikimedia and pulling tiles from >> OSM would not be acceptable: >> >> * Wikimedia would need its own updated Planet dump >> * Its own tile rendering infrastructure > > At f

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Now that is a special requirement! Could you generate static HTML > that uses and to line up some static PNG tiles in a > static HTML page? Sure; all that OpenLayers does is, in the end, produce some object tree with CSS that could as well be written in plain HTM

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-10 Thread Lars Aronsson
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Just installing an extension on Wikimedia and pulling tiles from > OSM would not be acceptable: > > * Wikimedia would need its own updated Planet dump > * Its own tile rendering infrastructure At first I thought that these requirements were natural, but are the

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-07 Thread Tom Carden
2009/3/4 Lars Aronsson : > > The OSM wiki has a tag that looks like this: > > I think this (and the slippymap tag) are great, but I wonder if using "map" as a tag name is a good idea. HTML already has a map tag that means something else. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#h-13.6.1

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-07 Thread OJ W
Hi. Is there anyone that knows the template changes required for http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:ExampleLocation so that the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sample_areas will work with the new tag? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Aronsson
Ed Loach wrote: > Not quite what you're after, but there is also > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_Map_MediaWiki_Extension > which is very similar to map, but allows viewers to drag and zoom. Ah, this tag is even better than the static tag. This map features a "reset" button, to jum

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread Harry Wood
My three step plan for developing the Simple Map MediaWiki extension ( tag) : 1) Disable the old syntax (with '|' chars) after we've finished changing all pages on the OSM wiki. Same with the slippy map plugin 2) Add support for 'layer=mapnik' and other layers. Use ojw's new 'GetMap' instead

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread Tim 'avatar' Bartel
Hi, 2009/3/4 Lars Aronsson : > Should we try to introduce the map tag in Wikipedia?  Has it > already been tried, and what was the reaction?  Do we have any bad > experience from its use in the OSM, to learn and improve from? We're working on this, I'll post some more information soon. > Fortuna

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread 80n
Lars You might want to find out a bit more about Query-to-map being developed by kolossos. It shows not just point features but also linear features such as rivers and roads. I believe it's hosted on Wikimedia's toolserver and is intended ultimately to be used on Wikipedia pages. Details here: h

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > Should we try to introduce the map tag in Wikipedia?  Has it > already been tried, and what was the reaction?  Do we have any bad > experience from its use in the OSM, to learn and improve from? > > It's not easy to convince the tech staff of

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Loach
Hi Lars, > The OSM wiki has a tag that looks like this: > > > In the page [[WikiProject Sweden]], this shows a 360x720 pixel > image based on zoom 5 map tiles centered around 63° N 16.5° E. > > Is this a user-friendly way to put a map in a wiki page? Would > normal users understand the z= par

[OSM-talk] Map tag in Wikipedia

2009-03-04 Thread Lars Aronsson
These days I spend more time in Wikipedia than in OpenStreetMap, but I haven't lost my interest in geography. Among the many things that need improvement in Wikipedia is the geographic coordinates that indicate the location of places, buildings, cities, and such. The OSM wiki has a tag that l