Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: +1.  While I'd rather see these objects go away altogether, I think a tag of name=Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria Area on a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Thread Lester Caine
Anthony wrote: Sounds good. I don't think storing these in OSM, with the non-overlapping tags, is harmful. While I'd love to see them in a separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been implemented.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Anthony wrote: Sounds good.  I don't think storing these in OSM, with the non-overlapping tags, is harmful.  While I'd love to see them in a separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter is that

[OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Bennett
I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- That Melbourne;Geelong... label is on a way that defines the edge of the Nearmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Tom Hughes
On 29/08/11 09:44, Steve Bennett wrote: I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- It's always been the case that names

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/08/2011 09:44, Steve Bennett wrote: I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik other than a name are getting rendered: http://osm.org/go/uG42g@6EB-- It's not a new thing, I don't think - in

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread yvecai
Maybe it is something for osm2pgsql to deal with ? Yves SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk a écrit : On 29/08/2011 09:44, Steve Bennett wrote: I'm not sure if this is a recent change (or I've just noticed it), but it seems that tags that don't contain anything recognisable to mapnik

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: It's always been the case that names sometimes get rendered for objects that haven't been rendered, because the names are produced by separate rendering rules and trying to attach to those rules a set of filters which match the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Thanks for the explanation. So I guess we should avoid using name=* on anything which should not be rendered. +1, IMHO it is also generally disputable to keep coverage-polygons of

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Tom Hughes
On 29/08/11 16:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/8/29 Steve Bennettstevag...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote: Thanks for the explanation. So I guess we should avoid using name=* on anything which should not be rendered. +1, IMHO it is also

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Particularly in this specific case, as nearmap coverage can't be used to derive OSM objects any more. The same mechanism is used for Yahoo, Bing etc coverage. Yes, it's debatable whether meta-objects should be stored in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Ian Sergeant
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote on 30/08/2011 11:14:32 AM: The same mechanism is used for Yahoo, Bing etc coverage. Yes, it's debatable whether meta-objects should be stored in the OSM database, but that debate would also extend to meta-tags (note=*, fixme=*) When I encounter these

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote on 30/08/2011 11:14:32 AM: The same mechanism is used for Yahoo, Bing etc coverage. Yes, it's debatable whether meta-objects should be stored in the OSM database, but that debate

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: +1.  While I'd rather see these objects go away altogether, I think a tag of name=Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria Area on a closed way implies that this closed way represents an area called