Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Gervase Markham
David Earl wrote: > Suggestions > for addressing this welcome - incrementally returning results is one > possibility I guess. You can qualify it "..., UK" (provided the is_in is > present - which is almost never is for US places), but that's non-obvious. I strongly suspect Google Maps either only

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Karl Newman
> > I have in mind a piece of work I'm loosely calling "finding the urban > envelope" which would analyse areas based on highway=residential and > abutters, where present, and other relevant clues, to heuristically > determine contiguous settlements. Hee. That's a nice idea, but I fear it would c

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 10:56, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > I wonder whether some context can be drawn in from whether there is a > administrative city boundary or residential landuse area surrounding a > street. But this would of course increase the parsing complexity a lot, > I guess. It's a whole differe

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 09:07, Stefan Baebler wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: >> > Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and >> > similar)? >> Yes, that should have been on my list in the pr

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
David Earl wrote: > It's a hard call. I did do a kind of weighting in the "where am I" > feature to give a reasonable spread of places of different kinds - > though again Tom hasn't implemented this in quite the same way on the > home page. I agree that it's a hard call (and trade-off). Also, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: > > Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and > > similar)? > Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. > This always was included. e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: > Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and > similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. This always was included. e.g. try searching for Cologne and Köln (or Koln) David

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 08:54 +, 80n wrote: > Why not? It seems reasonable to me to allow people to add common > usage names in addition to formal names. Isn't it, in fact, one of > OSM's unique features that we can do this? As such, Glasgow's "Clyde Arc" has local_name=Squinty Bridge. It sho

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread OJ W
Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:name On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: > > > What about 'short_name', just to make that *

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 15:33, David Earl wrote: > In your case, Zürichstrasse is apparently closer to Wallisellen than > Dübendorf, so I'm afraid that's the point of reference you get in the > expanded context. Name finder is based entirely on proximity; I'd need a > reliable set of boundary information

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 15:14, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > I looked up my street and indeed: > "Secondary road Zürichstrasse, about 1km north-east of Kämmaten" > http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.395633&mlon=8.605475&zoom=16 > > However that "Kämmaten" is a 3 house hamlet close by, while the town of > Dübendo

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
I looked up my street and indeed: "Secondary road Zürichstrasse, about 1km north-east of Kämmaten" http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.395633&mlon=8.605475&zoom=16 However that "Kämmaten" is a 3 house hamlet close by, while the town of Dübendorf (where I live) with 20,000 inhabitants which is about

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 13:49, Abigail Brady wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > It uses "name", then "place_name" (but only when name is not given), > then "ref", "iata", "icao", "old_name", and "loc_name" as if these we

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Abigail Brady
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It uses "name", then "place_name" (but only when name is not given), > then "ref", "iata", "icao", "old_name", and "loc_name" as if these were > in square brackets after the name as described above. Hence > "name=Archway Roa

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: > Colin Marquardt schrieb: >> Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the > name finder in particul

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:18, David Earl wrote: > On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: >> On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: >>> The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral >>> (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) > > Oh perversity! They've put a "&rsquo

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson
On 26/03/2008, Lars Aronsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sven Grüner wrote: > > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen > > plant' peop

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread 80n
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Lars Aronsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sven Grüner wrote: > > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
Sven Grüner wrote: > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen > plant' people would also search for 'VW plant'. Obviously no > application lik

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Grüner
Colin Marquardt schrieb: > Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag abreviate

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Colin Marquardt
David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to > make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different > server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and > home page search box are now workin

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: > On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: >> The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral >> (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) > > Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. > > I can't get th

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: > The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral > (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. I can't get through at all at the moment - presumably everyone is

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Wood
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > - All combinations of apostrophe s, singular and plural should now work > (previously it worked if it was mapped with 's and searched without, but > not vice-versa). > > - We now get 100% on the "British Museum Test f

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson
Awesome, great work David and all. Cheers Andy On 25/03/2008, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to > make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different > server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this

[OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and home page search box are now working again with a bang up to date index. The Name