Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: It is not clear to me what isn't free about MLS, but in any case openbmap has been around for quite a while. It's the fact you have to go through an API and tell Mozilla what you can see now, and they provide you a

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30.05.2015 um 02:16 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: I dont think this is legal by European standards ;) does it matter, if they do whatever they like? Germans spying on the european industry and governments and transferring it to the NSA, British illegal surveillance made legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Also, I really, really hope my access point will not get into any really open-to-everyone database because I don't want people to follow me

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-29 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:13:31AM +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote: Making your movements available publicly is a privacy invasion, no matter if it's legal or not. A lot of privacy invasions are legal (like the NSA recording all European Internet traffic when it enters the USA), but that doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Also, I really, really hope my access point will not get into any really open-to-everyone database because I don't want people to follow me around by database request when I'm moving somewhere and don't want to be easily

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Robert Kaiser
Michał Brzozowski schrieb: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Also, I really, really hope my access point will not get into any really open-to-everyone database because I don't want people to follow me around by database request when I'm moving somewhere and

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Simon Poole
It is not clear to me what isn't free about MLS, but in any case openbmap has been around for quite a while. The main issue with -all- of these alternative location services is that they currently can't be seamlessly be integrated in to mobile OSs without the cooperation of the manufacturers

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Robert Kaiser
Paul Johnson schrieb: OpenBMap http://radiocells.org/ It's similar to Google's location services or Mozilla's location service, but free. What's not free in Mozilla's service? Also, I really, really hope my access point will not get into any really open-to-everyone database because I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Michał Brzozowski
This could be big. Remember that Mozilla Location Services does not provide Wi-Fi data download due to privacy concerns (Which is BS in my opinion). But with data downloads available, one can develop off-line location services that could very well complement one of our selling points, that is full

[OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Paul Johnson
OpenBMap http://radiocells.org/ It's similar to Google's location services or Mozilla's location service, but free. You can make use of it as a location provider in Android using the OpenBMap plugin https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=unifiednlpfdid=org.openbmap.unifiedNlp for microG

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread François Lacombe
Hi paul, Can you detail a little more how this could be a real powerhouse please ? Is this just a use case for map renders or something with more OSM services interaction ? All the best François 2015-05-28 11:21 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: OpenBMap http://radiocells.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: This could be big. Remember that Mozilla Location Services does not provide Wi-Fi data download due to privacy concerns (Which is BS in my opinion). But with data downloads available, one can develop off-line