Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/09/2012 11:54 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: CC-BY-SA is similar in broad terms (you must license the mixed database to the user under CC-BY-SA), but lacks the details more specific to datasets, like the reasonable-format

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/10/2012 10:09 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: The ODbL has a clause softening that rule (4.7. b parallel distribution), which essentially says that you can distribute DRM-encumbered databases if you offer a non-DRM alternative that is at least as accessible as the non-restricted version.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Mike Dupont
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: CC-BY-SA is similar in broad terms (you must license the mixed database to the user under CC-BY-SA), but lacks the details more specific to datasets, like the reasonable-format requirement. Can you provide more information on

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread ThomasB
For mappers which are not OSMF members but interested in the response... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSMF-Board-auto-industry-What-s-the-story-tp5720039p5720100.html Sent from the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Rob Nickerson
For mappers which are not OSMF members but interested in the response...http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html The response includes a clear action for OSM/OSMF. That is they would

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-08-09 14:36, Rob Nickerson wrote: For mappers which are not OSMF members but interested in the response... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html The response includes a clear action for OSM/OSMF. That is they would love to see a roadmap for how

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
And I'm forgetting the biggest issue: additional effort to convert the map data into their proprietary format due to the lack of structural information. If convert the map into their proprietary format is only something that can be done at the car manufacturers mercy, as in: they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: And I'm forgetting the biggest issue: additional effort to convert the map data into their proprietary format due to the lack of structural information. If convert the map into their proprietary format is only something

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 09.08.2012 15:02, Maarten Deen wrote: I don't see the added value of having an OSM map if I still have to wait for (paid) updates by my car manufacturer. No one is talking about YOUR added value. It's about saving money for the manufacturer. They can talk easier about discounts with

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Phil! Gold
* Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl [2012-08-09 14:55 +0200]: Just curious: what is the current legal stand on mixing OSM with proprietary information? Let's say I want to use the OSM map and I have bought a proprietary list of POI's. Am I allowed to combine this, convert this to my proprietary

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread ThomasB
Maarten Deen wrote What would be interesting is to know what is necessary for them to use OSM. Is it possible to need their meets and therefore usefull to spend time to do it or not? For instance: address information. Is the Karlsruhe-scheme sufficient? afaik, lanes directions and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread Michael Kugelmann
On 09.08.2012 22:17, ThomasB wrote: The german forum is disussing with a employee of a manufacturer. could you please send a link to that discussion her into the mailing list? Thanks, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-09 Thread qunuxy-osmmailingli...@yahoo.com
On 09.08.2012 23:26, Michael Kugelmann wrote: On 09.08.2012 22:17, ThomasB wrote: The german forum is disussing with a employee of a manufacturer. could you please send a link to that discussion her into the mailing list? http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17795

[OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-08 Thread ThomasB
Hi, In the last board minutes [1] there was written Report of meeting with German auto industry in Ingolstadt. Additionally, there was a board member in official mission at the Telematics 2011 [2]. Telematics describes itself as largest focused telematics event in Europe that will bring together

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF Board auto industry / What's the story?

2012-08-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08.08.2012 17:33, ThomasB wrote: Many board applications at the last election had statements like If I will be elected, I will improve the communication. ... with the auto industry perhaps ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33