Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Ryszard Mikke
2008/10/16 Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gustav Foseid wrote: > >> One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, >> protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference >> between being careful and paranoid, however. > > Yes. We're paranoid. A

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Donald Allwright
>One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected >by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being >careful and paranoid, however. Sigh.there is nothing wrong with adding information that is copyrighted or otherwise protected. The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, >> protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference >> between being careful and paranoid, however. >> > > Yes. We're parano

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gustav Foseid wrote: > One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, > protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference > between being careful and paranoid, however. Yes. We're paranoid. Always have been, it's one of the things that defines OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere >> near "copying"? >> > > Entering "knowledge gained from other maps" is copying, yes. You sure seem very certain about that. I am certain th

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gustav Foseid wrote: > Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere > near "copying"? Entering "knowledge gained from other maps" is copying, yes. Of course, one can, and ideally one should, take a liberal view and say that expansionist views of copyright are ins

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > When you click Edit, and it says "1. Don't copy from other maps", it > really means it. It's not just there for decorative effect. Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere near "copy

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Donald Allwright
Ryszard Mikke wrote: > Ummm... Why is that so? Does that mean that I can't use WikiMapia > for it as well? Cause that is what I've actually done... It sounds like all you want is a way to place a specific point of interest in OSM, after having already placed it in wikimapia.org. I would recommen

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ryszard Mikke wrote: > Ummm... Why is that so? Does that mean that I can't use WikiMapia > for it as well? Cause that is what I've actually done... When you click Edit, and it says "1. Don't copy from other maps", it really means it. It's not just there for decorative effect. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Ryszard Mikke
2008/10/16 Lennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tom Hughes wrote: > the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. > [snip] >> ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from >>

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Even when someone has been there, verified the POI, and used Google > Maps > only as a fancy kind of notepad, in lieu of jotting down the > coordinates > on a piece of paper ? The burden of proof is always on those who accuse you of having copied data from Google, so if you act as you

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Lennard
Tom Hughes wrote: >>> the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. >>> I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. [snip] > ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from > Google Maps is not allowed anyway! Even when s

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Tom Hughes
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > Ryszard Mikke Korwin-Mikke.pl> writes: > >> the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. >> I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. >> The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even >> a nati

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Ryszard Mikke Korwin-Mikke.pl> writes: > Hello, > > the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. > I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. > The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even > a national road not mar

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Ryszard Mikke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. > I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. > The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even > a

[OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-15 Thread Ryszard Mikke
Hello, the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even a national road not marked. So I can't just go and draw the point. I need to