Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-09-03 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi Lester, > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.3790/-1.4692 is a perfect example, where a small roundabout has evolved into a much larger one, but the new through route is still being excavated. The problem with this is while it is a good approximation of how work is progressing, many of

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-09-03 Thread Lester Caine
On 03/09/15 09:34, Roland Olbricht wrote: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.3790/-1.4692 is a perfect >> example, where a small roundabout has evolved into a much larger one, >> but the new through route is still being excavated. The problem with >> this is while it is a good

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 16:29, Tom MacWright wrote: All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guideaction=edit *

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot
On 8/25/2015 5:29 PM, Tom MacWright wrote: Hi Lester, All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm * Here is the ticket I just created for learnosm, and if I can get the site updated soon'ish I will, because it does matter to me :)

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 25/08/2015, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: But in general if you want to map from scratch, make a new layer, map, merge layers, replace geometry, done, history retained and you mapped from scratch. I wonder if JOSM could do that automatically. Before uploading, JOSM would look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot
Retaining the history is the most respectful thing you can do for mappers but I have seen a lot of new'ish mappers who feel that just deleting and starting over is easier. In JOSM the replace geometry function can be used and it will retain the history and lets you map from scratch and

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 15:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Because 'it's easier to delete and start again' is encouraged rather than 'preserve the history of development' where someone HAS already spent the time doing that in the past so much is being lost! can you expand on this? Where are people

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 24.08.2015 um 10:05 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Because 'it's easier to delete and start again' is encouraged rather than 'preserve the history of development' where someone HAS already spent the time doing that in the past so much is being lost! can

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Tom MacWright
Hi Lester, All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guideaction=edit * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Editing_Standards_and_Conventionsaction=edit You should fix these

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 17:24, Tom MacWright wrote: It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity. http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/OSM+Development Not that I've got all the latest crib sheets working yet :( Last system I had fully functional was on an SUSE 12.3 -- Lester Caine - G8HFL

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Tom MacWright
It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 25/08/15 16:29, Tom MacWright wrote: All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm *

[OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-24 Thread Lester Caine
I'm talking basically about the UK here but I know of similar examples in the States and Australia and I assume the same rules can be applied world wide. There are a large number of structures currently mapped that require prior knowledge to establish their existence and previous usage. Railways,