Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Oliver Lewis
On 7/29/08, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] OSM _is_ expressly here to encourage an ecosystem. It's here to > collect the data and then get people to do funky things with it. Speaking as a relatively new contributor to the project, I think this is absolutely fundamental. I d

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Henry Loenwind wrote: > That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people > that are interested in using the data are not really welcome very much. Nonono. And here's another difference between OSM and Wikipedia. OSM _is_ expressly here to encourage an ecosystem. It's here

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Henry Loenwind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone wrote: >> let's keep >> the focus on filling up the database > >> I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or >> better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere! > > That sums it up

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects

2008-07-29 Thread David Earl
On 29/07/2008 09:21, Tom Chance wrote: > What a lot of effort! Why bother? I agree. In fact more than that, I think it would be damaging. For most people, the idea of "abstract" mapping data is a hard concept to grasp. The map renderings (in practice Mapnik, as I doubt most non-participants eve

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Chance
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[OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Henry Loenwind
Someone wrote: > let's keep > the focus on filling up the database > I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or > better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere! That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people that are interested in usi