I was hoping someone would have already bounced this thread, but I guess
not.

There is a confirmed bug in JOSM 2417 that breaks uploading, and may
encourage users to inadvertently delete ways if the validator plugin is
installed.

It looks like there's a partial fix in 2439SVN, but the root problem may not
be completely fixed yet.  Please see
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3884 for the gory details.

I've not sure which group handles it, but I'd recommend at least adding a
note to the MOTD.  If anyone else thinks it's critical enough, then it might
be necessary to set the server to blacklist any edits that come from 2417 as
well.

Thanks,
Chris Hunter
DiverCTH

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nakor <nakor...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need
someone to duplicate
To: Chris Hunter <chunter...@gmail.com>
Cc: talk...@openstreetmap.org, newb...@openstreetmap.org





 My apologies if this has already been reported to the dev mailing list, but
> I've been running up against a critical/showstopper bug in JOSM 2417 for the
> past few days.
>
> Can someone please try and duplicate this "precondition failed" bug:
>
> http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3884
>
> Here is the chain of events that seems to cause the most frequent problems:
>
> 1. Download and edit a small area (1 square mile or so).
> 2. Move along a way that was just edited, and download another small area.
> 3. Upload changes, but leave the changeset open. - Error may occur at this
> point.
> 4. Download and edit some more small areas along the same way.
> 5. Attempt to upload the new changes using the open changeset - Error
> *WILL* occur at this point.
>
> Depending on if the validator plugin is installed or not, you may also get
> a slew of warning messages about duplicate nodes.
>
>
>
I confirm the issue with 2417. I have it when downloading small areas along
my GPS tracks. A lot of ways come in "empty" (with 0 nodes) which causes
problems later for the validator and when trying to upload my work.
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