[OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a few others in the 1000's have been moved halfway round the planet. I fixed node 1205, but it's going to be making a mess of the mapnik map. Is there an easy wa

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Dave Stubbs wrote: >Sent: 06 February 2008 5:58 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits > >I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low >number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-6

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low > number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a > few others in the 1000's have been moved halfway round the planet. > > I fixed node 1205, b

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low > > number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a > > few others in the 10

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Jon Burgess
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:23 +, Dave Stubbs wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low > > > number nodes that have been utte

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Feb 6, 2008 8:39 PM, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:23 +, Dave Stubbs wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 6, 2008 5:57 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't know who/what they are,

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread 80n
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Stubbs wrote: > >Sent: 06 February 2008 5:58 PM > >To: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits > > > >I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low > >numbe

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
80n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 06 February 2008 9:12 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder) >Cc: Dave Stubbs; talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits > >If the server were to provide the original timestamp as an addition

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-07 Thread Brett Henderson
Would a version number be a cleaner solution? I'm always uneasy about using dates for this purpose. 80n wrote: > If the server were to provide the original timestamp as an additional > attribute, and reject if it didn't match on upload, then problems like > this could be prevented. > > It wou

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-07 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brett Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would a version number be a cleaner solution? I'm always uneasy about > using dates for this purpose. If our objects all had version numbers then maybe. They don't (yet). Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Dave Stubbs wrote: I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a few others in the 1000's have been moved halfway round the planet. All right I confess. I have done something like that to the node

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-10 Thread Chris Hill
>Dave Stubbs wrote: >> I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large number of low >> number nodes that have been utterly destroyed. Basically 522-603 and a >> few others in the 1000's have been moved halfway round the planet. >All right I confe

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Hi Chris. I learnt it quite soon after I uploaded my version of 300. I just sniffed JOSM but that is not the way ordinary people learn. It SHOULD (IMHO MUST) be described on the API page. Chris Hill wrote: Dave Stubbs wrote: I don't know who/what they are, but there are a large

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 11, 2008 9:44 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if there is a page anywhere that documents the > format of JOSM change files? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM_file_format On the more general idea of change file formats: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 10, 2008 10:51 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All right I confess. I have done something like that to the node > 300 a while ago. But while you are considering some solutions to > this problem allow me to explain myself. I tried to find out how to > create and upload os

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Gabriel Ebner
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 08:44:21AM +, Tom Hughes wrote: > I don't know if there is a page anywhere that documents the > format of JOSM change files? Nothing sophisticated. Everything with a negative id gets created, everything with an action="modify" attribute is uploaded, and everything with

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 10, 2008 10:51 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All right I confess. I have done something like that to the node >> 300 a while ago. But while you are considering some solutions t

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: > > > Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that > > documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format > > of a JOSM change file. > > No, I was reading the page

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Tom Hughes wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 10, 2008 10:51 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All right I confess. I have done something like that to the node 300 a while ago. But while you are considering so

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-18 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Tom Hughes wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format of a JOSM change file. No, I was reading the pa

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > And I ask: what is the value of the `id' attribute of the object in > question when the ID hasn't been assigned yet? Today I know the answer So why not just put it in the Wiki? Every misunderstanding that is subsequently resolved is a chance to improve our documentation. I've added a not

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Let me repeat onece more: > * the DTDs say IDs are *required* True, that should perhaps be changed. Sadly, the only way to do it 100% correct is to create an individual DTD for each of the operations and we don't want that because it makes the whole thing too complicated. > * no paragraph