Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-08-02 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 30/07/2014, Pieren wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > >> I'd consider that a useful note, and certainly within the scope of what >> notes were intended for. > > ?! > "useful" in what ? That the street names are missing in a town ? Then > create a note for missing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Þann 30.7.2014 19:50, skrifaði SomeoneElse: On 30/07/2014 15:08, colliar wrote: Am 30.07.2014 15:58, schrieb Glenn Plas: ... So he's asking if you know the names of the missing street. and closing the note. Therefor you need to have a login to reopen in order to be able to comment and it wil

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread SomeoneElse
On 30/07/2014 15:08, colliar wrote: Am 30.07.2014 15:58, schrieb Glenn Plas: ... So he's asking if you know the names of the missing street. and closing the note. Therefor you need to have a login to reopen in order to be able to comment and it will disappear after one week. Not the best way

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jul 29, 2014 3:35 PM, "Jóhannes Birgir Jensson" wrote: > I reopened it with a comment of my own, I found this approach very strange because Map Notes are in my mind a to-do list obvious problems that require surveying on the ground. Speaking as someone who currently accounts for probably arou

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread colliar
Am 30.07.2014 15:58, schrieb Glenn Plas: > Akward moment, > > I though my French escaped my brain somehow but it didn't. > > "so what" (in French Oui. Quels sont-ils ?) > > 'Oui, Quels sont-ils?' means: "Yes, which ones are they?" ! > > So he's asking if you know the names of the missing s

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Glenn Plas
Akward moment, I though my French escaped my brain somehow but it didn't. "so what" (in French Oui. Quels sont-ils ?) 'Oui, Quels sont-ils?' means: "Yes, which ones are they?" ! So he's asking if you know the names of the missing street. Glenn On 29-07-14 22:32, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson w

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread colliar
Am 30.07.2014 11:05, schrieb Pieren: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:32 AM, JB wrote: >> Hey, I think you are loosing the point. It is different to say « Here is a >> pharmacy missing » (carry an information) than to say « here is the street >> name missing » (IMO carry no information). > > Well, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:32 AM, JB wrote: > Hey, I think you are loosing the point. It is different to say « Here is a > pharmacy missing » (carry an information) than to say « here is the street > name missing » (IMO carry no information). Well, a note saying "here is THIS street or group of s

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Andreas Goss
I have used http://regio-osm.de/ and would have been glad if it was the other way round: People pointing out the few places where streets are missing opposed to knowing, well somewhere in the city there is supposed to be a street named xyz, but you have no idea where it is. Obviously here it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread JB
Hey, I think you are loosing the point. It is different to say « Here is a pharmacy missing » (carry an information) than to say « here is the street name missing » (IMO carry no information). While I like the first one (and even prefer it wher the name is added), I don't like the second, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Andreas Goss
create a note for missing addresses, shops, pharmacies, etc. Such notes do not help contributors because it is so obvious and does not bring any information or error report helping the others. Missing POIs are not obvious at all. I can't look at openstreetmap.org and see "Oh there is a shop or

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread Michał Brzozowski
> "useful" in what ? That the street names are missing in a town ? Then > create a note for missing addresses, shops, pharmacies, etc. Such > notes do not help contributors because it is so obvious and does not > bring any information or error report helping the others. It just a > bit arrongant o

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-30 Thread JB
Hello, good morning there, Some answers, and yes, I am JBacc1, closer of many notes in France. I also appreciate that this is (in my memory) the first time some interest is shown on the note feature (outside perhaps dev, that I do not read but was pointed to some interesting messages there). /

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Þann 29.7.2014 22:05, skrifaði Andreas Labres: On 29.07.14 22:32, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: Map Notes are in my mind a to-do list obvious problems that require surveying on the ground I disagree with this (principle idea). I disagree with your disagreement. But if the names exist and are

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > I'd consider that a useful note, and certainly within the scope of what > notes were intended for. ?! "useful" in what ? That the street names are missing in a town ? Then create a note for missing addresses, shops, pharmacies, etc. Such not

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/29/2014 1:32 PM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: Well I was surveying some area in France earlier this year and found a spot with missing street names so I marked it in and a JBacc1 (same JB?) commented "so what" (in French Oui. Quels sont-ils ?) and resolved it thus. I reopened it wit

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Andreas Labres
On 29.07.14 22:32, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > Map Notes are in my mind a to-do list obvious problems that require surveying > on the ground I disagree with this (principle idea). Notes were created as an easy means for non-mappers (or less experienced mappers) to give some kind of hint where

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Jo
I always thought Notes could work in 2 directions. It's sometimes easier to create a Note from OsmAND or Vespucci, than to do the mapping right there and then. Those are the Notes I usually resolve myself, after I come home, as it's easier to work on the data with JOSM. They can, of course serve a

[OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
The previous discussion about apparent automated Notes spam in various places about speed limits brought one comment I found interesting, where JB said "but in France, I have never ever seen anyone comment on someone else's note". Well I was surveying some area in France earlier this year and