Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/6 osm easingwold osm.easingw...@hotmail.co.uk: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.90445lon=174.85045zoom=16layers=B000FTF The renderer is confused by having a park overlapping the sea and it's obviously getting the ordering wrong. Yes. And therefore the problem lies in the

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 March 2010 16:01, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: landuse? no, i didn't use that. i used leisure=park sure. ahh…  our messy key,tag combinations for areas natural, landuse, leisure … and it's not a national park, only local council we still use it for parks if it's

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7 March 2010 13:55, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: Whoa, had a bad day? When things doesn't doesn't work like you want them to, it's not because the world is a horrible mess. no, not a bad day. previous bad experiences on osm around tagging: everyone's so concentrated on their own small

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:35, simon msr...@gmail.com wrote: In this case your park have to follow the coastline with the tham node (I have correct it to show you) unfortunately the water is part of the park If it was a park with water in the midle you have to use multipolygone relation

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:40, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Don't use coastline but tag the basin with natural water or any other water type tags like riverbank … hmm, well if we can ignore for a moment the abomination of inconsistency that is water tagging in general and

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:39, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2010 17:17, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how would i tag this so the

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/5 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: they'd already rendered, but now someone else has drawn it incorrectly. i'll revert, use a polygon relation, and re-render haven't you stated above that the water is part of the park? The multipolygon-relation will exclude the inner from the

[OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Hillsman, Edward
this out. Ed Hillsman Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:41:57 +0100 From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park To: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 7acdb3651003050441y1a38e833nffead252ca2a4

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu writes: I have a related question, which I've let sit for several months hoping to find an answer for. There is a park here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.8394lon=-82.5924zoom=14layers=B000FTF that includes wetland islands, wetland mainland, and

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
mailing list Subject: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park Sent: Mar 5, 2010 1:17 AM i'm after some advice. i know this is potentially tagging for the renderer, but still i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Chris Hill
John F. Eldredge wrote: On a related issue, since a way that forms a closed loop is interpreted as the boundary of an area rather than as a way, how does one map a road or trail that forms a closed loop? It depends on the context. A closed loop tagged with a highway tag is just a

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Mar 2010, at 24:29 , Robin Paulson wrote: On 5 March 2010 20:40, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Don't use coastline but tag the basin with natural water or any other water type tags like riverbank … hmm, well if we can ignore for a moment the abomination of

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 March 2010 01:41, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: haven't you stated above that the water is part of the park? The multipolygon-relation will exclude the inner from the outer, so IMHO this is not your desired solution... ah, yes. good point. i hadn't understood it

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 March 2010 06:23, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see when zoomed in to your view. clear now from low zoom. you can hack it but that is dirty tagging for the renderer. it is indeed. i'll leave it as is, and come up with some bullshit for when a casual map user asks why

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Mar 2010, at 13:41 , Robin Paulson wrote: landuse? no, i didn't use that. i used leisure=park sure. ahh… our messy key,tag combinations for areas natural, landuse, leisure … and it's not a national park, only local council we still use it for parks if it's the type of parks

[OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-04 Thread Robin Paulson
i'm after some advice. i know this is potentially tagging for the renderer, but still i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how would i tag this so the renderer understands the water bit should be treated as

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-04 Thread John Smith
On 5 March 2010 17:17, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how would i tag this so the renderer understands the water bit should be treated as water, and

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-04 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Don't use coastline but tag the basin with natural water or any other water type tags like riverbank … coastline is also sensitive to direction while water has to be a closed polygon only, direction doesn't matter On 4 Mar 2010, at 23:17 , Robin Paulson wrote: i'm after some advice. i know