Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Karl Newman wrote: Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the usage of canal is different. They're almost never navigable, and even small drainage ditches are commonly called canals. Almost no-one here would call any kind of waterway a drain. Definitely clarify

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 16:50, Alex Mauer wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the usage of canal is different. They're almost never navigable, and even small drainage ditches are commonly called canals. Almost no-one here would

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Shaun McDonald wrote: I have the only remaining part of the Croydon canal near me. It is only a few hundred metres long, and is now left to nature. A century ago the other parts of the canal were filled in and changed to railway. Presumably that's only called a canal for historical reasons

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the usage of canal is different. They're almost never navigable, and even small drainage ditches are commonly called canals. Almost

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 18:12, Alex Mauer wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: I have the only remaining part of the Croydon canal near me. It is only a few hundred metres long, and is now left to nature. A century ago the other parts of the canal were filled in and changed to railway. Presumably

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Alex Mauer
Shaun McDonald wrote: Presumably that's only called a canal for historical reasons then? Yes. Is there anything wron with that? Nope. I was just that I was wondering if it had some reason beyond its physical characteristics for being tagged as a canal. On the other hand, it might be

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2008, at 21:37, OJ W wrote: I'm still interested in this definition of aquaeduct though, since the wikipedia definition of man-made water-carrying thingie differs from OSM's definition of waterway on a bridge My definition of a canal is some waterway on a bridge. Shaun

[OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Raphael Studer
Hi, As a not native english speaker, I'm looking for the difference between canal (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal) and drain (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:waterway%3Ddrain). By looking at the Map Features, there are nearly the same. Canal: An

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
constructions depending on how much water they carry. Hope this helps. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raphael Studer Sent: 14 May 2008 12:01 PM To: OSM Talk List Subject: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) wrote: Both are created by man. A canal is normally navigable and a drain is not. A canal is for carrying goods and people, a drain is for transporting water much like a river but the drain has been dug by man rather than nature. Indeed. Sometimes drains,

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Raphael Studer
Both are created by man. A canal is normally navigable and a drain is not. A canal is for carrying goods and people, a drain is for transporting water much like a river but the drain has been dug by man rather than nature. Drains can be anything from quite narrow watercourses to very large

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Rory McCann
Karl Newman wrote: Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the usage of canal is different. They're almost never navigable, and even small drainage ditches are commonly called canals. Almost no-one here would call any kind of waterway a drain. Definitely clarify

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Rory McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Wow, that's not obvious to the casual (non-UK) observer. In the US, the usage of canal is different. They're almost never navigable, and even small drainage ditches are commonly called canals. Almost

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Lester Caine
Karl Newman wrote: Both are created by man. A canal is normally navigable and a drain is not. A canal is for carrying goods and people, a drain is for transporting water much like a river but the drain has been dug by man rather than nature. Drains can be anything

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Both are created by man. A canal is normally navigable and a drain is not. A canal is for carrying goods and people, a drain is for transporting water much like a river but the

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 14 May 2008, at 17:18, Karl Newman wrote: [..] In certain cases, yes. It depends on the season and the location. In a drainage canal near my house (would be called a stream if it were natural), the water stops flowing in summer, but there are generally pools in certain areas that

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread OJ W
Subject: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain Hi, As a not native english speaker, I'm looking for the difference between canal (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal) and drain (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:waterway%3Ddrain

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Stephen Hope
What is your definition of an artificial waterway? Dug and designed by man? Made of non-natural materials? Near me a few years ago was an open marshy field that was fed by a stream, with a stream exiting. Now the developers have put houses up in the field. They brought in dirt and raised the