[OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Asztalos Attila
Hi all As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar is present). Now I can definitely see how this is not an issue in large parts of the world, urban roads just being paved (as they are

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Asztalos Attila wrote: > As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays > surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar > is present). Is it public access, or is it owned privately? I ask because there is

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Asztalos Attila
On 11-Jan-2011 15:51, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Asztalos Attila wrote: As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar is present). Is it public access, or is it

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 January 2011 23:51, Richard Mann wrote: > Is it public access, or is it owned privately? I ask because there is > a strong correlation between public roads and decent maintenance where > I come from. And as it happens, Mapnik does show access=private. > > (the general problem with rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 John Smith : > There is a lot of public unsurfaced roads in Australia, some are > graveled, some are black soil and you don't both using them in the wet > without a 4wd etc. > > These usually show on maps as dashed lines, rather than solid lines, > rather than messing with the colour. y

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Asztalos Attila wrote: > On 11-Jan-2011 15:51, Richard Mann wrote: >> Which is not to say that knowing which roads are cobbled >> wouldn't be handy sometimes (but I probably think of this >> as something you need to render for yourself (cue ad for >> Maperitive...)) > > I certainly see the meri

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 03:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > yes, I agree that it would be nice to have a different rendering for > roads based on their surface. This is not completely trivial though: > there is also another tag regarding the surface: smoothness. Somehow Except you could quite easily t

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
This convention of using a dotted line to indicate an unsurfaced road is also standard practice in the USA. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved >From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Tue Jan 11 10:40:49 America/Chicago 2011 On 11 January 2011 23

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
vertical sides). This can happen to any roadway, regardless of how it is surfaced. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Tue Jan 11 11:08:22 America/Chicago 2011 On 12 January 2011 03:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 03:25, wrote: > Is there a tag for marking a section of road as deteriorated, rutted or > washed out? There needs to be a range of values, as the severity can range > from merely requiring you to slow down, to rendering the road completely > impassable (as when a flood resu

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread DavidD
On 11 January 2011 17:06, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Try playing with Maperitive, or Osmarender, or Mapnik, or Halcyon, or > whatever, to have a go at rendering it yourself. Keep playing until you've > got something that looks simple, intuitive and neat. When you've got this > really great renderi

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 11/01/2011 17:57, DavidD wrote: The mapnik layer already renders highway=track;surfaced=paved as a solid line and highway=track;surface=unpaved as a dashed line. An example http://osm.org/go/eutNf8ah-- That is rendering the different tracktype tags (grade1/grade2 etc), not the surface tag

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
> http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/gallery-fn7ik2te-1225983067381?page=90 Here's another example: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/gallery-fn7ik2te-1225983067381?page=117 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
). ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved >From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Tue Jan 11 13:27:03 America/Chicago 2011 > http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/gallery-fn7ik2te-1225983067381?page=90 Here's another example: http://www.news.com.

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Milo van der Linden
nd not only had roads wash out, but some railway tracks > as well. The flood was later classified as a thousand-year flood (meaning, > not likely to occur more than once in a thousand years). > > -------Original Email--- > Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved > From :mailto:

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 05:46, wrote: > Nashville, Tennessee, USA, where I live, was hit by severe flooding on May 1 > and May 2, 2010, and not only had roads wash out, but some railway tracks as > well. The flood was later classified as a thousand-year flood (meaning, not > likely to occur more t

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 Pieren : > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:04 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> will be unpaved: there is cobblestone, surface=asphalt, >> > > Excuse the stupidity of my question, but what is the difference between > 'paved' and 'asphalt' ? it's different concepts: paved doesn't tell yo

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-12 Thread Richard Mann
If someone feels like reviewing the stylesheet and providing a patch, I'd go for dashed casings rather than solid casings where surface is specified and it's not one of a small set (paved, asphalt, concrete, paving_stones). I've used a similar scheme on my local map (for distinguishing the quality