Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-14 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 14.01.2010 14:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > Emilie Laffray wrote: > >> Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, >> colloborating with openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. >> > Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Emilie Laffray wrote: > Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, > colloborating with openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the future evolve toward removing the non-commercial clause, or is t

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-11 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
> Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use > Only) clause Yes. That clause was the exact reason I left the mapping project "wikimapia" to search for a more free/libre mapping collaboration project(I was not expecting that most of the software used in OpenStreetMap was/is floss, and it was a

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
2010/1/5 andrzej zaborowski > > So I don't have any answer to the question of how to join forces with > openmaps.eu. There's one practical suggestion that I'd like to make: > Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Emilie

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/5 Jean-Marc Liotier : > As you can see, osm and omp is created roughly parallel in time, but if > we look back to the root (turistautak.hu) we're "older" than osm. > And we have different aims as we can see. > - our primary aim is to create maps for portable gps devices. We have > routable m

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2010-01-05 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > Andreas Labres wrote: >> Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: http://openmaps.eu/ They >> seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... > > I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68, > Trackman and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread SteveC
On Dec 17, 2009, at 5:46 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Steve Bennett wrote: >> Hmm, no one thought of registering "Open Maps" as a trademark as well as >> "OpenStreetMap"? > > What makes you think that if OpenStreetMap is a term deemed to general > to work as a trademark, Open Maps would

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett : > Whatever you like, but I'm not seeing the link. I/you/anyone could fix the > wiki now...why the need for a local entity? Why do you really want to create > a new website? Because it's easier that trying to spend time/effort getting the main OSM site changed, and as a s

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM, John Smith wrote: > This is a documentation issue, not a viewing issue, Buh? > the OSM website is > a bit disjointed, once a local entity is sorted out I'm planning to > get a localised a website setup and from there we can start to > implement our own idea on

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett : > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Smith > wrote: >> >> While it's a noble pursuit to help a specific demographic I think it's >> important not to exclude others in the process, most areas I've lived >> in in the last 12 months have no NearMap coverage, there is som

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Smith wrote: > > While it's a noble pursuit to help a specific demographic I think it's > important not to exclude others in the process, most areas I've lived > in in the last 12 months have no NearMap coverage, there is some > coverage with the Qld property

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett : > I think I made one or two tiny changes. Wasn't game to make any major > changes at that stage, though I have made suggestions on talk pages. I > really think there needs to be a shift away from talking about GPS'ing to > talking about editing, as the first thing newbies

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM, John Smith wrote: > > since working this out have you tried to improve the documentation > that would have made it easier for you? > I think I made one or two tiny changes. Wasn't game to make any major changes at that stage, though I have made suggestions on talk

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett : > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Erik Lundin wrote: >> >> Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I >> joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found >> out about it before. >> > I would have joined a long time ago

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Erik Lundin wrote: > Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I > joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found > out about it before. > > I would have joined a long time ago if I had known that Potlatch existe

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Erik Lundin
I just found their links page (http://openmaps.eu/links) where they link to OpenStreetMap, so they are at least aware of our project. /Erik Erik Lundin skrev: > Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I > joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Erik Lundin
Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found out about it before. /Erik Andreas Labres skrev: > They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Andreas Labres wrote: > Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: > > http://openmaps.eu/ > > They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... I sent their proeminent members (papa71, kepenu, KiVi, peter68, Trackman and BigMick) a gentle enquiry through their forum's internal mail system; that

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Nick Whitelegg < nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk> wrote: > In any case, we are supposed to be open. Trying to trademark names merely > similar to our own is one of the most closed, monopolistic actions that > it's possible to take. The idea of OSM is to collect and ma

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>> Hmm, no one thought of registering "Open Maps" as a trademark as well as >> "OpenStreetMap"? >What makes you think that if OpenStreetMap is a term deemed to general >to work as a trademark, Open Maps would somehow work? In any case, we are supposed to be open. Trying to trademark names mere

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Ian Dees
As much as it is disappointing to see others work on a similar/the same project, I don't think it makes sense for a group of people that have "open" in their title to block others from doing something through trademark law. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Hmm, no one thou

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: > Hmm, no one thought of registering "Open Maps" as a trademark as well as > "OpenStreetMap"? What makes you think that if OpenStreetMap is a term deemed to general to work as a trademark, Open Maps would somehow work? Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett : > Hmm, no one thought of registering "Open Maps" as a trademark as well as > "OpenStreetMap"? Weren't you the one agreeing with me that the words "open" and "free" have been abused too much and are too ambigious the other day? ___

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Bennett
Hmm, no one thought of registering "Open Maps" as a trademark as well as "OpenStreetMap"? On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: > Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: > > http://openmaps.eu/ > > They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... > > /al > >

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-17 Thread John Smith
2009/12/17 Kenneth Gonsalves : > On Thursday 17 Dec 2009 1:03:16 pm Andreas Labres wrote: >> Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: >> >> http://openmaps.eu/ >> >> They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... >> > license looks proprietary >From their copyright page: As our name suggests

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

2009-12-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 17 Dec 2009 1:03:16 pm Andreas Labres wrote: > Patrick from talk-at found this by chance: > > http://openmaps.eu/ > > They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow... > license looks proprietary -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/