Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL and publishing source data

2011-11-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I think that anything said until here will not be disputed by Richard Indeed not. :) the bit that *can* be disputed is whether or not it is permissible to label your resulting image a database and then not release the database behind it. Yep. I read the EU Database

[OSM-legal-talk] Google Maps UK - some legal angles

2011-12-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
As posted on talk-gb, Google Maps appear to have switched to using their own data rather than Tele Atlas's in the UK this morning. This raises a couple of interesting points. Firstly, it seems pretty clear to me that some of the data is OS-derived (probably from OpenData or a commercial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The Copyright of Split Ways

2012-01-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: There's no reason for such vodoo logic. A way split or merge can be determined from looking at a changeset. A changeset in which a chain of nodes is removed from one way and added to another, new way denotes a split. I don't think that's necessarily true. If we have:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The Copyright of Split Ways

2012-01-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
andrzej zaborowski wrote: (I thought it is i-i+j, at least in JOSM it was up to some point) It is. But it's very difficult to extract that with certainty from a non-trivial changeset. Add enough splits, and you may find i-i+j+k+l. Then add some merges and some deletes, and you possibly have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michael Collinson wrote: - as an OSM community member, are you happy for the OSMF to make such a statement? - is it true? - can you see any negative consequences? I'm with Ed and Frederik on this one, I'm afraid - I don't see any way in which we can afford additional permissions on a one-off

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions from a Journalist

2012-03-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Freimut - I'm happy to talk to your journalist. As you might know, my day job is as a magazine editor (our magazine celebrates its 40th anniversary this year) and therefore, you could say, I'm quite accustomed to this kind of work. Maybe you might be kind enough to forward my details to this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ian Sergeant wrote: However, if the transition happened today in Sydney, we would lose every freeway, every trunk road, every primary road, the harbour crossings, the foreshore. All the rivers. Without wishing to play down your loss at all - I wouldn't want to be an Australian OSM user at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What licences (other than ODbL) are compatible with OSM after 1st April

2012-03-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mayeul Kauffmann wrote: I think data licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0 cannot be put under ODbL without written authorisation by the copyright owner. Can you confirm this? Yes, that's correct. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Rebuild] Progress update

2012-06-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[followups set to legal-talk, but you may want to adjust to talk-us if focusing on LA etc.] On 21/06/2012 17:57, Alan Mintz wrote: Richard wrote: ...Given people's constraints on time and the community's (understandable) desire for the redaction to get underway asap... I've seen no such

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Mapnik attribution

2012-09-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shu Higashi wrote: Map data (c) ODbL 1.0 OpenStreetMap contributors and Map tile (c) CC BY-SA 2.0 OpenStreetMap That would be fine, but you could also do: (c) OpenStreetMap contributors: license where license is hyperlinked to http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright cheers Richard --

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing of works containing geocodes pinpointed on OSM data

2012-10-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jani Patokallio wrote: Any advice would be appreciated, as I still have a faint flicker of hope that we can get this past the corporate legal team and possibly even contribute back to OSM! On this specific issue: I'd suggest you consider whether your combination of OSM-derived data and other

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Igor Brejc wrote: 4.3 Notice for using output (Contents). Creating and Using a Produced Work does not require the notice in Section 4.2. However, if you Publicly Use a Produced Work, You must include a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Combining Creative Commons Licensed Data with ODbL and Redistributing

2012-11-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kate Chapman wrote: So is the new dataset a derived database? It seems like it is to me. What should we be licensing this? CC-BY is pretty much compatible with ODbL: CC-BY only requires attribution and ODbL provides that. There may be tiny differences of legalese but nothing substantive. So

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eric Sibert wrote: They established a route that for instance allows to from city A to city B but not with the short way. Instead, it is going left and right to visit points of interest, alpine hutch and so on. They claim that such a work is an original work. Yes, I can see that. I've

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
WhereAmI wrote: It would appear that any and all data associated with a website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM data is used. What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan of share-alike but that is trivially disprovable. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations

2013-06-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Someoneelse wrote: Someone's being adding translations of place names using: These aren't translations, they're transliterations. General consensus is that we shouldn't add transliterations (which are essentially algorithmic) to OSM. Apparently Place names translations are public knowledge and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Norman wrote: Is there any relevant case law on substantial? A brief reminder that there are two useful wiki pages: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statute_law http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Case_law which collect links to useful papers and cases. In particular Charlotte Waelde's paper

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[I'm going to break my rule of not posting to the mailing lists for this, because it's an interesting query and important for OSM. Since I started writing this, Robert has made an excellent posting which covers much of the same ground and comes to related conclusions, but from a slightly different

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-08-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Admin note: nominally I'm administrator of the legal-talk@ list. In practice the only international OSM list to ever have been announced as moderated is talk@, and I think locally talk-us@ may be moderated as well. Merely administered is a much more light-touch approach and generally works well

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Regarding community guidelines for map layers

2014-11-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matt Morrow wrote: That is in contradiction to the Open Data License/Use Cases page. Please don't use that page. As per the preamble: This wiki page was used for discussion and development of the move to the Open Database License. It is not legal advice, and is likely to be inaccurate or

Re: [talk-au] [Osmf-talk] my views on the ODbL

2009-12-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 05/12/2009 21:31, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: The proposed licence is not a benefit to Australians in my view. You have generously qualified this with in my view and I should point out that I disagree with all the force I can muster. I spent about two hours this morning writing a pretty detailed

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Murn wrote: the problem is that the powers-that-be dont seem to want to address the problematic terms and simply tell people the decisions have already been made, and to cease discussion. Hardly the way to run an open community project. I realise the phrase assume good faith is

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I don't agree with ODBL. I don't think that it is right that those providing manipulated data eg data ready for a navigation app (Navit, Garmin format) should have to provide access to a planet dump of OSM as well. They don't have to. ODbL 4.6b: You must also offer

Re: [talk-au] MS imagery

2010-11-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Luke W. (lakeyboy) wrote: Is there already a usable URL out there that can be put into Potlatch 2 or other editors? You could in theory use Bing right now in Potlatch 2 if you run your own instance, but although the code's been written, none of the public instances (Geowiki, MapQuest, or even

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Bennett wrote: Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: 1. OSMF needs a written out strategic plan. Hear, hear. The equivalent of Patches welcome in this case is: OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess 2011's elections will take place at the start of July as

Re: [talk-au] JOSM filtering image/map tile URLs

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Sam Vekemans wrote: It's a good think that potlatch2 doesn't restrict APIs :) [...] Oops, I mean restrict Imagery URLs. ... sorry got carried away on the last message :) Elizabeth Dodd wrote: If you wade through the whole conversation on the josm-dev mailing list you would be aware that

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: I was invited to join a CC-by-SA project, was aware of which licence was appropriate for me at the time of joining, and will not be part of the obscure and doubtbul licence project. Fair enough. As of today, contributions to OSM are ODbL+CT only. Guess that's you

[talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I think it's reasonably obvious by now that the two sides in this debate aren't ever going to be reconciled. It's not exclusively an .au problem, but it is mostly. If you look at any of the analysis done recently, Australia simply hasn't taken to ODbL+CT in the way that other countries have.

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 00:02, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Germany 90.1% Great Britain 89.1% France 96.8% North America 96.4% Russia 97.2% Australia 48.4% You didn't show Albania which has an even low acceptance rate,

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 07:54, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Indeed, I was concentrating on the big guys. Albania isn't a big guy. Not sure what your point is about imports but neither GB nor Germany have particularly significant numbers of imports - the only major

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 08:16, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Can we not - both sides - agree to work on building up our own projects, and making them as attractive as possible to users old and new, rather than knocking the other one? But my comment before sets the

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Murn wrote: I think the biggest problem people in .au had was that there were some issues which were specific to the Australian usage of OSM (imports of gov data, etc). Those who sought to change the licence claimed to be listening to people, but when Australian mappers raised issues, we

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 11/07/2011 10:13, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 19:04, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: they don't have to be the same licence. That unambiguously works with ODbL (4.5a): whether it works with CC is a moot point because CC is unclear for data licensing, but it's likely that

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 11/07/2011 10:52, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 19:29, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: It's not using it under a licence other than CC-BY-SA. A Collective Database or Collective Work means that the ODbL part of it is under ODbL and the CC-BY-SA part is under CC-BY-SA. This

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Are you sure? ODbL defines 'Collective Database Means this Database in unmodified form as part of a collection of independent databases ..'. Therefore if you cut out Australia it cant be part of a collective database, because it is not the whole database in an

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Which seems to me to that you are agreeing with my point, that these are derivative databases, not collective databases as you first argued. No: one is a Derivative Database (ODbL) and the other a Derivative Work (CC-BY-SA), but the combination of the two is a Collective

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Well for a start 4.8 only comes into play when you communicate a derivative database Which you are doing, as part of a Collective Database. Incorporating a Derivative Database into a Collective Database does not absolve you of ODbL's requirements, or remove its freedoms, for

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-11-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Laughton wrote: Perhaps you could explain to us what happens if a third party takes OSM data, and publishes it without any attribution at all. Would they be in violation of the Open Database License ? Yes. The summary (http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/) says:

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-11-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[crosspost removed] 80n wrote: Most importantly it allows subsequent copies of the produced work to be made with no attribution. No, it doesn't. An attribution statement without a downstream requirement is not reasonably calculated. This has been gone over ad nauseam in legal-talk. Richard

[OSM-talk-ie] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hello all, This is a special heads-up to the British and Irish mailing lists that the licence change bot is ready to get underway, starting in our areas. Starting this week, we will be 'redacting' the contributions (less than 1%) from the live database that are not compatible with the new

[Talk-de] Potlatch (Re: Multi-User randale ( s?dlich Reutlingen/T?bingen ))

2008-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Apologies, as a non-German speaker I can only half-follow this discussion through Google Translate, and I realise it's very rude to post in English on a German-speaking list. I thought it would nonetheless be valuable to follow up two points in particular, hope you don't mind. Andre

Re: [Talk-de] Potlatch, die Siebenundzwölfigste

2008-07-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ralf Otmanns wrote: Potlatch mag sein ein tolles Tool sein, ein gut gemeintes Tool ... leider wissen vielleicht 2 % der Leute, die es verwenden, was sie da tun. Ihr wisst ja, dass gut gemeint das Gegentum zu gut ist. Der Rest sind wie 4jährige, denen Du Malstifte gibst und sie dann in

[Talk-de] Potlatch and relation handling

2011-12-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
(Sorry, tried to send this yesterday but my subscription to talk-de appeared to have died! Apologies in advance for posting in English.) Tirkon's claim about Potlatch and relation handling is complete nonsense. To edit a relation in Potlatch 2: * select a node or way which is a member of that

Re: [Talk-de] Potlatch and relation handling

2011-12-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: So in the end I am happy that someone recently coded the missing relation support for Potlatch2, but given your statements from previous discussions (as well as you closing relative tickets with won't fix) wasn't really encouraging to think that this has been

Re: [Talk-de] Potlatch and relation handling

2011-12-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Btw: I am not aware of the concept of parasitical criticism, what do you intent? - reply offlist preferred to keep the noise low Replied offlist. Richard ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Potlach 2 - kein bing-Hintergrund-Bild mehr bei Militaerflaechen

2012-01-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stephan Knauss wrote: Das ist egal. Die Bilder sind sauber. Potlach hat aus irgendwelchen Gründen beschlossen diese Bereiche zu verschleiern. You are certifiably insane. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Severn Way finished!

2012-01-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Now mapped from the source to Bristol. Thanks to everyone who did part of it and especially Steve Brook and Ed Loach for filling the gap near Bewdley. cheers Richard ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [oxoncotswolds] Possible pub meetup with the West Midlands crew in early October?

2013-07-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 08/07/2013 17:45, Andy Robinson wrote: No schedule but I'd expect it to be a bit of an ad-hoc mapping party before adjourning to the pub but if something more substantial gets organised that's cool. We certainly would need: 1. A cake Banbury Cake! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_cake

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [oxoncotswolds] Tysoe Mapping Party

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 04/04/2014 11:42, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Just had confirmation from Mike Sanderson of Tysoe Parish Council that May 31st is the preferred date for their Mapping Party (refreshments provided!) and publicity will be going out in the Parish Magazine shortly. So book the date. Tysoe is

[Talk-ca] Canvec in Potlatch 2

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hello talk-ca people, I've made a little change to Potlatch 2 that will ease the process of loading Canvec data. Potlatch's approach is very much here is some data that you can use to help your mapping, rather than here is some data you can upload in bulk, and the idea is that you load the

Re: [Talk-ca] [talk-ca] Merging ways

2012-07-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
James Ewen wrote: So, do dig up an old thread again... is there a way to merge adjoining areas in Potlatch yet? I got a great answer from Adam Dunn on using the JOSM join ways feature. I'd like to be able to do this in Potlatch as it is annoying to have to switch to another editor just to be

Re: [Talk-ca] Creating a relation

2012-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
James Ewen wrote: What would be making it impossible to create a lake with two islands with Potlatch2? In that example, the outer way isn't closed. If you close the outer way (i.e. same node at the start and end) then it'll work fine. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !

2012-03-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
overflorian a écrit: Google Map Maker est sacrément bien fait : c'est simple, efficace, sans flash ... c'est un peu l'interface qu'on attendait depuis toujours pour potlatch ! En Anglais, on dit patches welcome. Vous allez nous aider? amitiés Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Google Map Maker arrive en France ! (Richard Fairhurst)

2012-03-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
can't get better if no-one writes code for it. amitiés Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Re-Google-Map-Maker-arrive-en-France-Richard-Fairhurst-tp5580844p5581296.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Revert de changesets pour vandalisme ?

2012-07-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jo a écrit: Maetma, Je n'ai pas réussi de restaurer ce changeset: 12394958 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12394958 Je l'ai fait: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12447296 J'ai trouvé Maetma trés impoli sur trac.openstreetmap.org, alors cette vandalisme ne m'étonne

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch, utilisable avec le cadastre ? [Etait : Potlatch, mauvais outil ?]

2012-09-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren a écrit: Ces deux points nécessitent du développement assez conséquent Je serai heureux d'ajouter réprojection Lambert-spherical Mercator à Potlatch 2. L'accès aux images avec cookie sera moins facile, mais on peut créer un proxy cadastre_tools (sur dev.osm.org peut-être).

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch, utilisable avec le cadastre ? [Etait : Potlatch, mauvais outil ?]

2012-09-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren a écrit: You can find more details about the special WMS protocol on the wiki (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ WikiProject_Cadastre_Fran%C3%A7ais/Aspects_techniques_du_cadastre_en_ligne). I could expand it with the details about how to retrieve CODE field (the municipality ID

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Modération de la liste talk-fr [Etait : Potlatch, utilisable avec le cadastre ?]

2012-09-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
verdy_p a écrit: Pour revenir au sujet, si Potlatch était développé sans Flash, en HTML5+Javascript, il serait plus viable à long terme. Si Flash est en fin de vie, Potlatch 2 aussi est condamné à disparaître dans sa version actuelle. Il est peut-être temps d'envisager Potlatch 3...

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La fondation knight attribue 575 000 $ pour l'amélioration de l'infrastructure OpenStreetMap

2012-09-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nicolas Dumoulin a écrit: 1. un éditeur facile et performant. Il parle de partir de potlach, dommage j'aurai préféré la solution javascript en développement. Tu as vu iD (http://www.geowiki.com/) ? Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nicolas Moyroud a écrit: C'est vraiment une honte d'avoir effaceacute; le texte de Pieren du Wiki ! Without wanting to reawaken the argument, I think Pierre's wiki text was a little injudicious and I can see why Grant removed it. Writing a local community guideline instructing people to reply

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: Ce n'est effectivement pas très diplomatique de la part de Pieren, mais ce n'est pas plus diplomatique de la part du DWG d'auto-proclamer des règles sans discussion préalable et de bloquer des comptes pour la seule raison qu'on ne prend pas en compte leurs

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: Il faut prendre en compte l'aspect très peu pratique et l'utilité très très limitée de ce compte dédié pour les imports faits de façon parcellaire comme c'est le cas pour le cadastre, mais aussi pour beaucoup d'import de données opendata comme nous le faisons

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit: Ok - alors peut-être qu'une limite explicite pour la dimension d'un changeset serait intéressante pour apporter une discrimination objective entre import mineur et import massif. Un peu comme http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-September/064482.html

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: Si je comprends bien, cette proposition permettra le blocage si l'on n'utilise pas de compte dédié, et permettra aussi le blocage si on ne met pas les bons tags dans le changeset... de mieux en mieux ! Oh for goodness' sake, Christian. There are two opposing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: J'ai proposé sur talk@ d'utiliser les tags, mais sans le compte dédié qui n'a plus d'intérêt avec les tags. Rendre les deux obligatoires ce n'est vraiment pas aller vers un compromis mais rajouter une couche dobligation supplémentaire. Ah, non, tu n'as pas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
RÉAU Simon a écrit: S'il te plaît Richard pourrait tu écrire en français sur la liste française. J'essaie, oui, mais mon français n'est pas très bon. Ma première petite amie était française et en ce temps-là je pouvais parler français assez bien... mais c'était 1992, et maintenant, 2012, je

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: Un import de bâti de plus de 2 nodes est-il concerné ? Quand je lis ta proposition, c'est oui, ou alors il faut que je retourne en cours d'anglais. Alors, si tu penses pas 20,000 mais 200,000, dites ça sur la liste talk@! Richard -- View this message in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Imports du cadastre et compte dédié

2012-09-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christian Quest a écrit: Richard, en quoi le volume change quelque chose ? C'est un impact plus grand sur le map (et le communauté) alors on a besoin de visibilité maximale. Je pense que c'est approprié que, par example, DaveHansenTiger et xybot sont des comptes dediés. Mais tout d'abord, c'est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch2 a évolué (était Encore un alignement de points abusif liéà Potlatch 2.)

2012-10-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Teuxe a écrit: J'ai l'impression que nous avons été entendus... Oui. :) amitiés Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Encore-un-alignement-de-points-abusif-liea-Potlatch-2-tp5729034p5729634.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Trouver les éléments CC-NY-SA qui ne passeront pas dans ODbL

2011-07-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Marc SIBERT a écrit: le fork, c'est *le* changement de licence. Après tout, le projet fosm n'est que le maintient de l'existant (la branche principale !). 98.7% vs 1.3% (d'aprés http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/license)? Ceci n'est pas un fork.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Trouver les éléments CC-NY-SA qui ne passeront pas dans ODbL

2011-07-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Christophe Merlet (RedFox) wrote: Plus de 400 000 contributeurs OSM. Seul 29264 ont dit oui aux nouveaux termes du contributeur... Même pas 8%... Moins de 140 000 contributeurs OSM [1]: number of users != Number of contributors. 29 264 ont dit oui. De plus, environ 59 000 contributeurs

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Notion de créateur anonyme ; j'arrête le job.

2011-07-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hélène PETIT a écrit: Puis je suis partie à la recherche d'autres groupes de modification appartenant au user anonyme. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Anonymous_edits http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-November/020022.html

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] state of the map

2012-01-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philippe Pary a écrit: Cependant je crois deviner que mes compères seraient plus motivés à prendre SotM 2013 que SotM-eu cette année. Personnellement, je serais très heureux de voir SotM-EU 2012 à Lille. Tokyo, c'est trop loin pour moi et pour la plupart d'OSMeurs britanniques. amitiés

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mise à disposition des données SPOTMaps France à la communauté OpenStreetMap par Spo t Image

2010-10-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi wrote: La liste des applications pourra être completée ultérieurement mais actuellement la décision est de ne fournir la donnée qu'au sein d'applications clients lourds et non d'applications web. Désolé pour les utilisateurs de Potlach pour l'instant. Nous

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch et lignes de bus

2011-03-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
rldhont a écrit: Dans Potlatch tu ne peux pas créer de relation de relation donc la relation line. Tu peux créer une relation de relations avec Potlatch 2: - Choisis la relation route (Advanced - double-clique) - Choisis Advanced et puis Add to - Choisis la super-relation line (ou New

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Potlatch 2 et alignement de points

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pmz a écrit: Je viens de détecter une nouvelle victime de potlatch2: la frontière sud de la commune de la bacconière (53). J'en ai profité pour ouvrir un ticket à ce sujet ! Ce n'est pas victime de potlatch2, c'est victime de newbie. Meme si vous ne pouvez pas créer un patch pour Potlatch 2,

Re: [OSRM-talk] Time-to-destination on OSRM is too short

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Spod OSM wrote: Looking at the OSM data, it does look as if there is missing maxspeed data on some of the roads involved (but the maxspeed on the major length of motorway is correctly tagged), but presumably OSRM uses sensible scaled down defaults, relative to the way type, in that case? Any

Re: [OSRM-talk] Time-to-destination on OSRM is too short

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Generally it seems that different ideas in different areas of the world, of what a trunk road is supposed to be, now fall onto our feet ;-) One option that comes to my mind would be that you change the road classification in Britain to use trunk only on those ways

Re: [OSRM-talk] Beginner question: default car profile and tracktype/smoothness/surface

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michal Palenik wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:57:23PM -0300, Fernando Trebien wrote: But I don't think we can easily implement different interpretations of the tags on a per-country basis. in postgis/anyspatialdatabase, this would be fairly easy (except for filling in the data by

Re: [OSRM-talk] Issue with chosing a sub-optimal route

2014-12-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rudolf Mayer wrote: Ideal should be http://osrm.at/atu, which however gets a slower time computed - and I don't really understand why... - Both ways have the same speed limit (ro:Urban) - The second option is shorter The trunk road (219294960) has smoothness=very_bad set on it. This will

Re: [Talk-GB] Southwest UK mapping party

2007-07-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
OJW wrote: I'm also penciling-in a week of Devon/North Cornwall exploration in the weekend of 31 August - 3rd September Worth alerting Mike tracing NPE maps Calder? He's local: http://www.guillemotdesign.org/ cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Who was mapping Dulwich park? (also make all edits public!)

2007-07-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Chance wrote: I've just noticed someone doing very rapid and cool work around Dulwich Park, which is cool! It would be good to co-ordinate a bit. Since it was done in Potlach there are also bits that need cleaning up, which I'm happy to do in JOSM, but I don't want to step on anyone's

Re: [Talk-GB] Who was mapping Dulwich park? (also make alledits public!)

2007-07-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Chance wrote: Here's the area, just have a look in JOSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.44551183981207lon=-0.077243376360124zoom=15 Problems I've found include: 1. Adding ways to existing nodes often doesn't work, resulting in two nodes right next to each other. See, for example,

[Talk-GB] NCN Land's End to John O'Groats

2007-08-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
At the start of September, Simon Berry is cycling from Land's End to John O'Groats entirely on the National Cycle Network. He will be taking a GPS and has kindly agreed that OSM can use the tracklogs. This should be an excellent boost for our NCN coverage. More at http://www.gpscycle.com/ .

Re: [Talk-GB] Hindhead Tunnel

2007-08-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jonathan Bennett wrote: Does someone want to own up to mapping the northern Hindhead Tunnel approach? You can find out who mapped a section through the API: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.4/way/4945067/history My first thought was that it must have been added by our resident tunnel

Re: [Talk-GB] Hindhead Tunnel

2007-08-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: The second edit was mine (i.e. I added the note) - so why hasn't my username showed up? Have you made your edits public? cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] dangerous cycling lanes (was Re: A new highwaytagging scheme - thinking about)

2007-08-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
(moved to talk-gb) Andy Allan wrote: I haven't tackled the concept of not-signed-but-nice-anyway routes - so far I've been concentrating on routes signed by external agencies How do you (or anyone else) think I should tag the National Byway? (http://www.nationalbyway.org) I'd really like

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] dangerous cycling lanes (was Re: A new highwaytagging scheme - thinking about)

2007-09-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Allan wrote: OK, much as I'm loath to propose new tags from past experience on the list, here's some suggestions. [...] Let me know which option you pick, and I'll get it into this week's map. Thanks for the ideas. I've remembered how much I hate tagging discussions now. Anyway. I've

[Talk-GB] Fwd: [CARTO-SoC] RE: WORK OPPORTUNITY - GPS CYCLE ROUTE SURVEYING

2007-09-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Via CARTO-SoC... - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:55:18 BST From: Richard Peace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I have been approached by leading cycle map cartographers Cycle City Guides (see www.cyclecityguides.co.uk for moreinfo) to get

[Talk-GB] A roads - a new project for the winter months

2007-11-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
The nights are closing in and the weather's getting lousy... cycle mapping after work isn't such an appealing option right now. So here's a mapping project where you can survey with the heater on. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_A_Roads The aim is to

Re: [Talk-GB] A roads - a new project for the winter months

2007-11-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: The nights are closing in and the weather's getting lousy... Is it? :-) It is when you live part of the week on a boat and you only have a little diesel stove to keep you warm! cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2

2007-11-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Russ (Justec) wrote: Just want to clarify something - if a road is partially mapped, should it be listed, with a note of which part is not mapped? Yes, please do. Kudos to the mapper who saw an A road on the list and went and mapped it yesterday (you know who you are :) ). cheers Richard

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Unsurfaced road and Byway?

2007-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
(moved back to talk from talk-gb) Nick Whitelegg wrote: TBH I'd prefer highway=unsurfaced kept in - I use it extensively. Even better though - and this is my own high horse :-) - we really need to sort out highway for non-roads which at the moment is a mixture of physical characteristics

[Talk-GB] Oxford hi-res on Yahoo

2008-01-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Socks on IRC has just spotted Oxford has gone hi-res. Any other additions? cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Worcester

2008-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hello all, I fancy going to map Worcester on Saturday 23rd Feb. Anyone else up for it? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Worcester http://www.openstreetmap.org/? lat=52.1895lon=-2.2237zoom=13layers=B0FT (lovely place, one of Britain's smaller cities, mainline trains from London and

Re: [Talk-GB] Summer Wales Party / Isle of Wight Redux... Was: Re: Worcester

2008-01-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stephen Coast wrote: I'd rather not try to herd cats on the list in terms of dates, but ideas for locations appreciated. http://giscussions.blogspot.com/2007/03/intellect.html Anyone can map the UK, apparently there are 10 companies currently mapping London (I know one, how many can you

Re: [Talk-GB] Greetings and hello GARMIN users - OpenMapSource anyone ?

2008-02-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mike Paley wrote: I see 'openstreetmap' already exists using 'funny' GPX files. For a couple of years now I've been thinking about 'OpenMapSource' - Garmin's MapSource type mapping but 'open' and created by Garmin users - or at least those who can create and handle GDB files. Being

[Talk-GB] NPE coverage

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I've uploaded NPE tiles at zoom level 14 for the whole of Wales and the Marches, plus two areas requested individually (Birmingham and the Chilterns). You can trace from them in Potlatch by making sure you're at zoom 14 (hover over the 'Edit' tab and check the URL if you're not sure),

Re: [Talk-GB] NPE coverage

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: Why not do this for other layers, like Yahoo too? Yes, there's a wider issue here and it's one I'm (not alone in) considering at the moment. Potlatch will before too long automatically add a tag showing what background layer was in effect when you committed an edit.

Re: [Talk-GB] reprojected NPE

2008-04-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim Sheerman-Chase wrote: It may be worth reassembling the NPE map (from tiles or backup) and retiling, it but it would be a big job! (The potlatch blog mentioned anchor points and improving alignments...) I'm plotting anchor points on 5km x 5km squares which is working pretty well. You

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