Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?
25.10.2017 9:43, Frederik Ramm пишет: "Half a good edit" is not good enough though. When we talking about single edit "half-good" is not good. But process of semi-automated and automated wikitags fix could be easily separated in many independent edits even within single changeset(change of wikitags for one object does not depend of changing wikitags for other). And even when some of these edits is bad while most of edits is good whole concept seems good too. I don't research situation about (semi)automated wikidata fix deeply. I just find out that number of arguments against it are same that used against whole amateur cartography concept. Well, certainly Wikipedia links should only be added by people who know something about the feature in question, and not by a machine that compares name tags to Wikipedia entries and takes a wild guess. No-no... I'm not talking about generating wikitags by matching. Just oppose: I mean we should use separate wikitags, but managing these tags require more understanding of Wikipedia than just local knowledge. And _*if *_we focus on local knowledge as major and only source for any tags _*then*_ we should forbid wikitags as they could not be supported with just local knowledge. And I really doubt that intentionally link to redirection page instead of true page as Tomas Strapius do here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1717783246/history is good idea in Wikipedia-way. -- С уважением, Златовратский Павел. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?
25.10.2017 7:46, Tomas Straupis пишет: But this topic has already listed numerous problems with your automated (or semiautomated) edits all around, ignoring local communities etc. You have been asked to stop numerous times. Well. That's the problem in your position: you point to specific problems and ask to stop whole process. So instead of fix these problems (you did not ask for this) people just ignore you. I met such behaviour with software implementation: people reject to use software miss some feature even when software already do half of their job. I don't think any number of problems with automated edits is reason to stop them. I think it is reason to fix problems. Like: don't fix disambiguation wikipedia links if there is wikidata point to disambiguation page(i.e. it is intentionally disambiguation link) and don't add wikidata to disambiguation wikipedia page. Otherwise on next step we should ask to stop using of wikipedia links: only name=* could be validated on the ground, there is no label on object with wikipedia URL and 'guessed' wiki links sometimes became wrong. -- С уважением, Златовратский Павел. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*
Because it is wikipedia tag for brand, not brand for wikipedia.
("Wikipedia" property of "brand")
Like name:en is "English" property of "name", not "name" property of
"English".
02.10.2017 11:41, Ilya Zverev пишет:
Hi folks,
One question: why brand:wikipedia and not wikipedia:brand?
Should we now use brand:ref, en:name, maxspeed:source instead of the regular
order?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52002801
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52529386
etc.
Ilya
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