Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Sep 28, 2012 7:27 AM, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: -- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : This is the real problem for us. For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently 152 million objects. Which means

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre to be allowed to use cadastre data we have to add a source key which is long about 40 characters

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30.09.2012 um 01:21 schrieb Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: My understanding is that the source=* tag is for mappers and cannot be relied upon to provide attribution or for meeting a legal requirement. Nothing in the OSM license prohibits a data consumer from removing tags and

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:14 PM To: penor...@mac.com; cqu...@openstreetmap.fr; si...@poole.ch Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Réf.: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre Le ven. 28

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Sep 2012, at 06:25, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: -- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : This is the real problem for us. For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently 152 million

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
I know. My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with source tags and source tags for each and every tag on each object which is starting to happen. You can then use the changeset info to synthesise the source info down to

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Lester Caine
Shaun McDonald wrote: My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with source tags and source tags for each and every tag on each object which is starting to happen. You can then use the changeset info to synthesise the source

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 8:55 Shaun McDonald wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Philip Barnes
Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 28/09/2012 9:21 Lester Caine wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: My thinking is that the source tag would be better placed on the changeset rather than polluting the whole db with

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. You don't even need the fourth step - the dialogue that appears when you click the way/node id is the history. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: Select way or node. Click advanced. Click way/node number. Click more details. I think that the question was about changeset tags, in which case there are a couple more steps: View History. Choose the changeset to view information for, and click it. Here's an

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Someoneelse wrote: Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags? I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source':

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk writes:  I would prefer to keep the source tag with the object. Within a changeset I will often have some roads where source is GPS, have traced some buildings from bing, and added a few pub/shop names where source is survey Changeset info can be

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Someoneelse wrote: Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags? I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source':

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 02:13 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : Obviously buildings are part of it, but is there a list of what else? Hi, I don't think there is a list. the information that you can find are highway references,street names,city boundaries,cemetery

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : This is the real problem for us. For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently 152 million objects. Which means 1/6th of the planet consists of French buildings. Now, there is a real

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le mer. 26 sept. 2012 21:48 HAEC, Lester Caine a écrit Looking at the source material, there is nothing which can be used to separate the blocks displayed into separate buildings, and since we have no means of identifying different levels of building, adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread Lester Caine
THEVENON Julien wrote: Personally I would prefer to seehttp://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/funnybuilding.png as a single closed outline box. If the vectors are not providing closed objects then there is something wrong with the data anyway and in my book it should not be allowed to be