Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-10 Thread ndrw
On 09/06/2020 18:40, Simon Poole wrote: [snip] Based on information in this thread and private conversation with some of OSMF members, it looks like Mapbox has treated the iD project as owned by OSMF from the beginning. Furthermore, I've been told iD maintainers are happy with the proposed

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Phil Wyatt
@openstreetmap.org; nd...@redhazel.co.uk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD > Who owns the iD project now? What's happened after "nearly all of the > original authors left Mapbox", has the project ownership been transferred > from Mapbox to OSMF, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mikel Maron
> Who owns the iD project now? What's happened after "nearly all of the > original authors left Mapbox", has the project ownership been transferred > from Mapbox to OSMF, or perhaps to current maintainers? Does Mapbox still > retain the ownership rights to the project (even if they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.06.2020 um 18:04 schrieb nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > > Who owns the iD project now? What's happened after "nearly all of the > original authors left Mapbox", has the project ownership been > transferred from Mapbox to OSMF, or perhaps to current maintainers? > Does Mapbox still retain the

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread ndrw6
On 09/06/2020 16:00, Simon Poole wrote: Nearly all of the original authors left Mapbox a long time ago, nobody working on it today is an "original author". The grant that Mapbox received at the time was clearly instrumental in allowing them to start growing the company to its current size, so

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Am 09.06.2020 um 14:18 schrieb Mikel Maron: > --- > > As it should be. Mapbox developers decide on (not just  have input on) budgets, product specs etc etc etc etc etc etc for the company? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Simon Poole
Frederik has already corrected most of your misconceptions, so just some additional comments; Am 09.06.2020 um 12:32 schrieb nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > > - Taking control from the original authors would slow down, if not > stall, the development of iD. > Nearly all of the original authors left

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mikel Maron
Hey I have some other things to say on this thread, but quickly this point is based on incorrect assumptions > But if push comes to shove, and someone needs to decide how something is done, do we want US tech firms to decide what the official OSM editor does, or do we want the OSMF to decide

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 2020-06-09 12:32, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: > To me, OSMF wants the control of a project it hasn't developed but > turned out too successful to ignore, The iD editor has been originally built by Mapbox funded by a grant from the Knight Foundation with the aim of being a good editor for

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 9, 2020, 12:32 by nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > On 09/06/2020 09:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> On 6/9/20 02:53, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: >> >>> Basically, can you please explain why do you think you should be able to >>> influence decisions of the iD maintainer without forking the code, >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 9, 2020, 11:08 by saba...@gmail.com: > > > Il giorno mar 9 giu 2020 alle ore 10:06 Frederik Ramm <> frede...@remote.org> > > ha scritto: > >> >> We are having this discussion because the assumption that if someone is >> a good programmer they will also be good with gauging the will of

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread ndrw6
On 09/06/2020 09:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 6/9/20 02:53, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: Basically, can you please explain why do you think you should be able to influence decisions of the iD maintainer without forking the code, maintaining it yourself and in the end competing with iD on a level

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Christine Karch
You are invited to organize a panel about that during SotM. We are just creating space for panels, workshops and other free sessions: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/self-organized_sessions_howto Am 08.06.20 um 22:41 schrieb Dorothea Kazazi: > Hi all, > > The OSMF

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Stefano
Il giorno mar 9 giu 2020 alle ore 10:06 Frederik Ramm ha scritto: > > We are having this discussion because the assumption that if someone is > a good programmer they will also be good with gauging the will of the > OSM community has proven wrong; iD is a good editor but the iD team has > too

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 6/9/20 02:53, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: > Basically, can you please explain why do you think you should be able to > influence decisions of the iD maintainer without forking the code, > maintaining it yourself and in the end competing with iD on a level > playing field. I think that we

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-08 Thread ndrw6
On 08/06/2020 21:41, Dorothea Kazazi wrote: The OSMF board is asking for comments on possible approaches to resolving controversies related to upgrades to and modifications of the iD editor. Please read the post by Allan Mustard:

[OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

2020-06-08 Thread Dorothea Kazazi
Hi all, The OSMF board is asking for comments on possible approaches to resolving controversies related to upgrades to and modifications of the iD editor. Please read the post by Allan Mustard: https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/06/08/toward-resolution-of-controversies-related-to-id/ Feel free